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   Christopher Neugebauer (chrisjrn@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 01:20:12 JST Christopher Neugebauer

   I gave a talk at last month about the role of organising in Open Source. I have three obserpinions therefrom:

   1. Going all-in on permissive licensing was a mistake that directly led to extractive behaviour
   2. Copyleft not having a good answer to the actual concerns of people who chose permissive licensing was a mistake that directly led to people going all-in on permissive licensing
   3. It's too late to care about licensing, so we need other forms of consequences/ways to encourage organising

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     Christopher Neugebauer (chrisjrn@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 01:20:39 JST Christopher Neugebauer

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     but advoacting for the necessity of one class of license over another?

     nope, it really really doesn't matter any more unless you have lawyers

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     Christopher Neugebauer (chrisjrn@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 01:20:40 JST Christopher Neugebauer

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     with that in mind, I will probably roll my eyes at you if you are advocating for a particular class of licence, except in the very narrow case of software that is absolutely necessary for a device to operate, in which case, copyleft is a good (if presently hobbled, pending SFC vs. Visio) proxy for disclosure of source code/right to repair

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     Christopher Neugebauer (chrisjrn@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 01:20:57 JST Christopher Neugebauer

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     FURTHER POINTS:

     1. Invite me to give this talk somewhere else, it's good stuff, and it's much better in a 33-minute format than a toot on mastodon
     2. gosh it's amusing that early Django contribs are faving my original post, since I use Django as one of the litmus tests for how badly copyleft maximalists fucked up in the early '00s.

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