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   Tim Bray (timbray@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 03-Apr-2025 13:37:02 JST Tim Bray

   • Evan Prodromou

   @evan I think you might want to reformulate that? Yes, many Palestinians have left Gaza for the same reasons my Norwegian ancestors left for the new world. Others leave in terror of Israeli butchery. What does “voluntary” mean? Are you asking in the specific context of the 2024/5 slaughter? Are you talking about individual movements or ethnic cleansing?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 03-Apr-2025 20:19:58 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @timbray Thanks. You're touching on a lot of the ideas I'm interested in discussing! I usually try not to clarify my questions, but here we go: I am very much focused on the idea presented by the ultranationalists in the Israeli cabinet of "voluntary transfer".

     https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/24/middleeast/israel-approves-proposal-to-facilitate-emigration-of-palestinians-from-gaza-intl/index.html

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     Tim Bray (timbray@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 00:47:57 JST Tim Bray

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan The trouble is that the poll risks creating the impression that the Smotrich/Trump lethal racist ethnic-cleansing proposal are a thing that reasonable people can argue about the benefits/costs of. I decline to join such a discussion.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 00:59:42 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @timbray fair and appreciated.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 05:12:59 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @timbray I probably should be more careful with it. Personally, I can't understand why people in two countries seem to think this is a perfectly fine plan, and people in other countries refuse to get involved. I probably gave the plan too much of the benefit of the doubt.