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   Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa: (burnoutqueen@todon.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 06:43:54 JST Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa:

   If you live in an authoritarian society where you are deprived of any meaningful democratic representation, you have the right to use violence.

   And before people jump on my back about it, I just implore them to learn about slavery, the Holocaust, apartheid, and essentially any other case of extreme state violence throughout history. Apartheid didn't go away because the black South Africans asked "pretty please".

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     Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa: (burnoutqueen@todon.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 06:43:48 JST Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa:

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     Not to mention the pervasive use of violence by authoritarian regimes like Russia or the Israeli state in order to enforce minority rule in some form.

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     Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa: (burnoutqueen@todon.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 06:43:49 JST Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa:

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     I understand the idea that violence is a last resort, and I agree with it.

     However, it is ahistorical and/or playing into the hands of tyrants to condemn all violence.

     Mr. Bill repeated this.
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     Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa: (burnoutqueen@todon.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 06:43:51 JST Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa:

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     Liberals are ahistorical.

     Liberalism is itself the product of armed struggle.
     The right to vote is a product of armed struggle.

     Nearly every progressive achievement of liberalism throughout history is the direct result of violence used against monarchial tyrants and their supporters.

     Mr. Bill repeated this.
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     Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa: (burnoutqueen@todon.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 06:43:52 JST Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa:

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     This isn't a blank check to oppress people by any means. It's just about recognizing that it is rare for oppression to end without force.

     And, funny enough, liberal democracy itself is the product of armed struggle.

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     Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa: (burnoutqueen@todon.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 06:43:53 JST Jackie 🍉 :gay_communism: :trantifa:

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     White people are somewhat alright recognizing the right to resist tyranny on the part of other white people, but deny that recognition to non-white people.