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    Ben Royce 🇺🇦 (benroyce@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Mar-2025 02:04:22 JST Ben Royce 🇺🇦 Ben Royce 🇺🇦

    last year i had heated arguments with nonvoters

    putting aside #geopolitical #trollfarm accounts working a #psyop, some of them were real (that's why they work this psyop: #toxicidealism is real)

    the #democrats suck

    but the choice matters

    you *build* on it

    you iterate

    you don't expect perfect, then pout when you don't get it

    #Midterms2026:

    #vote, motherfuckers

    In conversation about 2 months ago from mastodon.social permalink
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      Ben Royce 🇺🇦 (benroyce@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Mar-2025 02:04:20 JST Ben Royce 🇺🇦 Ben Royce 🇺🇦
      in reply to
      • John Lusk

      @tarheel

      when i castigate #nonvoters i hear:

      "you're turning them off"

      fuck that

      if someone lacks the capacity to see the stakes, that's on them

      it's not our job to soothe and trick them with emotional appeal. that's #MAGA tactics

      what's happening now is they are learning consequences

      the hard way

      *even then* they will shift blame. never taking ownership of their #alienation

      the problem is them

      not how insensitive we are to their fucking precious feelings

      #vote #midterms2026 you fucks

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 20-Mar-2025 02:04:20 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • StillIRise1963
      • John Lusk

      @benroyce @StillIRise1963 @tarheel
      Important to remember in conversations like that, when you’re arguing with somebody who’s really dug in, often you’re not really making a case to them at all. You’re making a case to the bystanders.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Ben Royce 🇺🇦 (benroyce@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Mar-2025 02:04:21 JST Ben Royce 🇺🇦 Ben Royce 🇺🇦
      in reply to
      • John Lusk

      @tarheel

      yup

      voting is part of the struggle to maintain your #rights

      ignorance of the consequences comes from #privilege

      nonvoters on the left are exactly like #MAGA this way: they don't know and they don't care how *they* are fucked

      because what's important to nonvoters is masturbating their ego in an ivory tower of perfection, and if they don't get perfect, they feel #entitled to not #vote

      utterly fucking ignorant to the fact they live in fucking reality and they are impacted, personally

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      John Lusk (tarheel@mstdn.io)'s status on Thursday, 20-Mar-2025 02:04:22 JST John Lusk John Lusk
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      @benroyce

      I think there's a large fraction that doesn't know, doesn't care and/or doesn't care to know. Low-info voting prolly won't help; turnout doesn't help any more.

      So it's more "care, motherfuckers." Maybe a taller order.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink

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      Ben Royce 🇺🇦 (benroyce@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Mar-2025 02:23:06 JST Ben Royce 🇺🇦 Ben Royce 🇺🇦
      in reply to
      • StillIRise1963
      • Paul Cantrell
      • John Lusk

      @inthehands @StillIRise1963 @tarheel

      why i'm posting this now

      #midterms2026 means enough #democrats to stonewall #trump

      but as the time draws near you will hear the same old whiny lies:

      "both sides the same"

      "corruption is everything"

      "nothing matters"

      "waah waah"

      some of it is real #toxicidealism

      some of it is #geopolitical #trollfarm #psyop

      advertising their fake #leftist bonafides, like an american flag profile on #twitter injecting a #maga #kremlin agenda

      people fall for it

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 20-Mar-2025 02:24:28 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
      in reply to
      • StillIRise1963
      • John Lusk

      @benroyce @StillIRise1963 @tarheel
      100%. My only addition to that is that I’m not sure democracy will survive to the 2026 midterms, so we •also• have to fight now, using every tool we can find. Both. Yes and.

      The people waiting for elections to save them •and• the people who think they don’t matter are all fools.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 20-Mar-2025 02:39:21 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
      in reply to
      • StillIRise1963
      • John Lusk

      @benroyce @StillIRise1963 @tarheel

      That’s the thing. There •is• hope, but none of this magically takes care of itself. No matter how true or how good, none of it happens on its own. We act or we fail.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Ben Royce 🇺🇦 (benroyce@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Mar-2025 02:39:22 JST Ben Royce 🇺🇦 Ben Royce 🇺🇦
      in reply to
      • StillIRise1963
      • Paul Cantrell
      • John Lusk

      @inthehands @StillIRise1963 @tarheel

      study the history of #chile, #southkorea, #spain

      look at #serbia, #georgia, #hungary today

      corrupt, murderous regimes, opposed

      they fought! they're fighting!

      what you about you #usa?

      i will not listen to arguments saying #american #democracy is doomed:

      hopelessness

      cynicism

      it only helps #plutocrat-#bigot malice

      you fight

      you #vote

      now and forever

      that matters

      "but it should be easy"

      never is and never will be

      #america:

      show a fucking spine

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      John Lusk (tarheel@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:18:48 JST John Lusk John Lusk
      in reply to
      • StillIRise1963
      • Paul Cantrell

      @inthehands @benroyce @StillIRise1963

      Caveat: that's a public debate. Cost of losing is high. (Benefit of winning is high, too, but, new caveat, it might not stick. Wow, I'm so negative. :/ )

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:18:48 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
      in reply to
      • StillIRise1963
      • John Lusk

      @tarheel @benroyce @StillIRise1963
      Don’t think of it as winning and losing; think of it as norm-setting and example-making. Who gets pushback? Who gets a pass? Who gets cheered on? Who gets absolutely smacked down? People care a lot more about that than about who “won” a debate on Lincoln-Douglass terms.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink

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