<<Russia and Ukraine launch air attacks after Putin-Trump call>>
The art of the deal right there lol
<<Russia and Ukraine launch air attacks after Putin-Trump call>>
The art of the deal right there lol
is there no better source than bbc?
why do all of you guys keep linking to this garbage media?
"in this particular case it really doesn't matter"
you're giving these faggots relevance..
you're allowed to do that !
but it makes you a faggot ;-)
@mk I suppose there are better sources, but in this particular case it really doesn't matter. It was obvious that Russia won't go for ceasefire and that's what they're all reporting now. Except for the outlets hell bent on sucking to Trump, that is
"needs me to"
do you increase "clicks" on their article if you share their link?
yes or no?
> yes
does more clicks == more relevance?
> yes
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i don't understand your argument..
@mk why? You're under the impression that BBC needs me to link to their article in order to be relevant, or something? It's hardly some obscure outlet, you know.
Also, what would you prefer? An outlet ripping at Putin, because the only ceasefire Putin's willing to agree on is one specific for energy infrastructure, since Russia refineries are on fire?
"Also, what would you prefer?"
media that's funded preferable directly by their audience. maybe with a little advertisement that's doesn't dictate their speech.
alternative media channels on rumble.
for example:
- Bannon's War Room
- Real America's Voice
- Badlands Media
- Candace Owens
- Viva Frei
- Benny Johnson
- Drew Hernandez
- Vigilant News Network
- BaldBrad
- LumpyPotato
- MyronGainesX
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/give-me-a-list-of-alternative-QQvzmNyKTCy8jTbg13mK6w#0
ad hominem?
what's your argument, faggot?
@mk yes, I'm sure you don't understand. It doesn't come as a surprise at all
tldr: everybody that's not sucking israels cock.
i think trumps wants to leave ukraine as soon as possible because he really wants to suck israels cock so hard by starting a war with iran.
@mk that's not news tho, son. Those are opinions.
And FYI, i've posted this because just a few days ago there was a bunch of people here yapping how both Trump and Putin want peace and the only hindering factor there is Ukraine, while now, you have ceasefire agreement with Ukraine and the US on one end and no one on the other because Russia quite simply doesn't want to end the hostilities, and instead of reversal in opinions, all I see is silence and bullshit.
Just calling BS on "some people"
"you clearly have no arguments to present"
you clearly don't open my links
@mk well, you clearly have no arguments to present, so I'll just toy with you, son. It's fun.
not to mention my argueing here:
https://mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/114188551776802747
are you really this retarded that you can't even follow this simple logic?
more clicks == more relevance
"dump old military gear in Ukraine"
can you give me a list of military gear that the usa gave ukraine and demonstrate that all of it is old?
@mk I'm kinda thinking that Trump being Trump wants to make a business deal that benefits his team.
As it is now, he can dump old military gear in Ukraine, replace it with new gear and effectively charge it to Ukraine because he gets mineral rights, so it's hardly in his interest to end it.
He sort of showed the plebs that he sort of wants peace, the simple folk bought it and here we are.
Either that or he's a retard, but I don't believe that is the case
@mk no, I can't. Not without really looking it up. But it is quite obvious that the US didn't order new production runs specifically for the purpose of supplying Ukraine, ergo all the gear that the US has sent over came from storage, and it also stands to reason that the gear will be replaced with brand new gear, no?
"no, I can't"
god damn you're a lazy motherfucker..
here. i did it for you.
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/list-of-all-the-military-aid-t-jcU6IvePQ12muK.hVw5PpA
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yes, you're right. the majority of military arms delivered from the usa to ukraine is pretty old shit.
"will be replaced with brand new gear, no?"
that would require that the u.s. military is actually innovative and not just another corrupt kick-back scam for elitist faggots.
"waste time"
if you're unwilling to invest 2min research to back you own claim, you're lazy and ignorant.
@mk man, you're confusing laziness with unwillingness to waste time on trying to prove the obvious
it's important to keep up to date with weapons technology.
because modern $300 FPV drones can counter tanks that cost more than a million usd.
@mk also, to clarify, when I say "old" I don't necessarily mean "junk". It's just that brand new is always better than old because everything has a shelf life and the older it gets the more you spend on maintenance, not to mention that the more production you have going, the better your economy looks
i'm investing at least 5min into research BEFORE i make a claim.
if you say something without anything to back up your claim, you're a retarded sheeple.
@mk let me ask you this: how much time you're willing to spend on proving to me that two plus two equals four? ;)
"300 bucks drone can't counter a million bucks tank."
"And it turns out, 44% of all destroyed tanks, 57% of other armored vehicles, and 20% of artillery systems were taken down by drones operated by special units trained to deploy attack UAVs."
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/two_raids_minus_twenty_enemy_vehicles_ukrainian_soldiers_reveal_the_insightful_statistics_of_fpv_drones_attacks_video-7911.html
"Three $500 FPV drones damaged a modernized T-90A valued around $4.5 million near Bakhmut."
https://x.com/DefenceU/status/1701139095030759926
@mk no, a 300 bucks drone can't counter a million bucks tank. It's an utter nonsense. And I would know, because I can actually build a 300 bucks drone and I can tell with absolute certainty that something like that won't even be able to carry a warhead strong enough to make a dent in any serious armor. Let alone range, detectability, "jammability" and all the other issues.
i'm allowed to insult you, because i'm actually making arguments and back them up.
you're just talking a lot..
@mk don't forget that I'm using ad hominem "arguments" ;)
But hey, since you're at that researching stuff thing, you might want to look up how much and how far a briefcase-size quadcopter can actually carry, instead of relying on the BBC bullcrap ;)
"Abrams with both reactive armor and ranged defenses that are good enough to render rocket propelled grenades obsolete."
Russian Lancet kamikaze drones have been used to immobilize and destroy Abrams tanks. For instance, one tank was first immobilized by a Lancet drone, then finished off by an anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) near Berdychi
@mk ok fine. And now separate the propaganda bullshit and apply it to anything even close to trying to take out an Abrams with both reactive armor and ranged defenses that are good enough to render rocket propelled grenades obsolete.
The US military doesn't need to worry about defending Soviet era junk meant to stop firecrackers
i guess $500 for the raw drone without explosives, logistics and operating personal.
@mk yeah, and I suppose the unit cost of lancet is 500 bucks, hu? That's actually an awesome news to me. I'll take a dozen ;)
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