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    Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 16-Mar-2025 03:05:52 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan

    If the fucker doesn’t want us to read it this much…

    #carelessPeople #facebook

    In conversation about 2 months ago from mastodon.ar.al permalink

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      Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 16-Mar-2025 08:45:31 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      Well the book is good. As in damning. And not just for Mark or Sheryl. Ireland, especially, comes out looking terrible in ways the EU will be most interested in having insider confirmation on (and anyone who’s been following @noybeu’s work will not be surprised by). Will post some highlights tomorrow after I finish reading it.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink

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      David Somers (omz13@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 16-Mar-2025 17:38:05 JST David Somers David Somers
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      @aral My copy should be delivered on Monday. I’m always conflicted about these kind of books: at what point do you stop turning a blind eye while taking the money and become a whistleblower?

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 16-Mar-2025 17:38:05 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      @omz13 Same.

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      Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 16-Mar-2025 18:11:19 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      • Ralph Brandi

      @thereisnocat @noybeu People do love a good redemption arc but, just for context, Zuckerberg calling the people who trust him with their data “dumb fucks” came out in 2010.

      That said, it’s why I’ve been so vocal in challenging the creation myths of these venture-capital funded startups (that they are started by starry eyed idealists who just want to improve the world and then, somehow, “enshittify”). No, they are shit from day one. Understanding that won’t fix the ones we have but might stop the next one existing. (We still haven’t understood this and that’s why we keep getting surprised and disappointed… over and over and over again.)

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      Ralph Brandi (thereisnocat@toot.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 16-Mar-2025 18:11:20 JST Ralph Brandi Ralph Brandi
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      @aral @noybeu Read it yesterday in one session. Couldn’t put it down. Glad I ditched Facebook years ago. Simply appalling behavior described in the book, and the narrative arc from idealism to disillusion makes it thoroughly believable.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 16-Mar-2025 22:39:18 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      @noybeu The more I read through Careless People, the angrier I get. Not because this isn’t anything I didn’t already know from the outside (you only need to know he saw Facebook’s users as “dumb fucks” for trusting him and Facebook’s business model) but because of all the people who are listed trying to get “the powers that be” to do better. “Effecting change from the inside” is the biggest crock of bull.

      When you’re fighting an infection, you don’t negotiate with the virus. You don’t try to make the virus a kinder virus. And you sure as hell don’t put yourself in a position where your survival – sickly as it might be – depends on the continued wellbeing of the virus. You kill the damn virus.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink

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      David Somers (omz13@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Mar-2025 23:51:38 JST David Somers David Somers
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      @aral And now somebody is filling in some of the blanks: https://restofworld.org/2025/careless-people-book-review-facebook-global-policy/

      In conversation about a month ago permalink

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        Careless People: Facebook insider’s memoir reveals more in what it omits
        Sarah Wynn-Williams’ memoir is a courageous feat, but it glosses over her own indifference to warnings from policymakers, civil society, and internal teams outside the U.S. about serious harm to communities from Facebook.

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