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   Matthew Green (matthew_d_green@ioc.exchange)'s status on Friday, 14-Mar-2025 02:51:51 JST Matthew Green

   So I am getting the distinct feeling that Google (in addition to Apple) got a Technical Capability Notice from the U.K.

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     Matthew Green (matthew_d_green@ioc.exchange)'s status on Friday, 14-Mar-2025 03:10:01 JST Matthew Green

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     This maybe confirms a bad feeling I was getting a few weeks back. https://ioc.exchange/@matthew_d_green/113929669316823012

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     Matthew Green (matthew_d_green@ioc.exchange)'s status on Friday, 14-Mar-2025 03:10:02 JST Matthew Green

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     Senator Wyden asked both companies to confirm or deny that they’d received TCNs. Both parties said, essentially, “if we got one we wouldn’t be allowed to tell you under U.K. law.” https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/bipartisan-members-of-congress-to-uk-spy-court-uk-gag-orders-for-surveillance-backdoors-threaten-americans-security-and-privacy-impede-congressional-oversight

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     Matthew Green (matthew_d_green@ioc.exchange)'s status on Friday, 14-Mar-2025 03:10:02 JST Matthew Green

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     Money quote(s) from the article. Note that there is no “you can’t deny” clause in the U.K. law.

     Rich Felker repeated this.
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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 14-Mar-2025 03:12:03 JST Rich Felker

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     @matthew_d_green So does a statement of the form "we're barred from confirming or denying" amount to confirming? Since, otherwise, they'd be allowed to truthfully deny.

     Or does it just mean they're assholes who don't want to tell us the bad things they're voluntarily doing and want to pretend it's some bad government making them do it?