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@arcana sure I just want to see if she tries to make it all make sense
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@eemmaa @arcana no i mean she used to think he was super progressive and super smart
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@sun @arcana i think the standard liberal response that i would agree with: he is the worlds richest man, that has inserted himself as right hand man to the president in an unelected position, the president is doing fucking tesla adds on X for him
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@eemmaa @arcana yeah you're not wrong just saying that its hard for people to admit they were duped even if it happens hard
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@sun @arcana i mean that was the image he used to project, that image has purposefully been changed by himself, that entire billionaire and entertainer group (joe rogan, musk, robot reptile guy) all have done the new guy ritual which generally just means take mushrooms, hunt, work out, do ju jitsu and like donald trump
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@eemmaa @arcana I have opinions on this, I think there are ppl in the middle that were happy being more or less prog when it had no cost
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@sun @arcana i mean i think its possible he was fairly progressive, i think joe rogan was at one point, but he lacked a father figure - so he was very open to changing his view points to fit in with other older men.
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@eemmaa @arcana well yeah just like of course for joe rogan or elon musk they are coming from a place of comfort.
although, I think they really are for example pro gay marriage and progressive on some other issues but I don't know that they would protest if it went away.
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@sun @arcana see I’ve kinda gone the other direction as of late, I feel like I can’t be purposefully oblivious and centrist and now I need to actually be more actively left wing due to I fear possible cost.
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@eemmaa @arcana my issue has been, at least in terms of "who do you support" that we only get a binary choice. I did not actually vote in the last three elections because of shit choice. if you support policies but you don't support politicians you're basically ineffectual unless you go for "direct action"
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@eemmaa @arcana I'm on board with literally decimating the government but I agree deporting green card holders for no reason is pretty bad. binary choice problem again tho
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@sun @arcana I mean same that’s why I haven’t participated, but idk , like don’t trust a dude with issue that affect me that does petty shit like sed lgbt and pointlessly insult on a regular basis. Then going after health care funding. The threat of pulling federal funding over murals. The arrest and deportation green card holders for speech on campuses. I just like this guy seems like a danger now.
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@sun @arcana ya I mean I don’t think the Democratic Party represents any left wing interest I hold other than social issues by consequence.
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