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   SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 01:12:08 JST SuperDicq

   Let's laugh at Cursor users again

   • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: and snacks like this.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 01:12:40 JST Fish of Rage

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     @SuperDicq it's just a bug, I have done way more than that
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     Rocket (rocket@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 01:34:52 JST Rocket

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     @SuperDicq Rofl. I haven't run into this. I had it analyze a 10k+ line program and it didn't complain
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 03:05:28 JST SuperDicq

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     • Rocket

     @Rocket@shitposter.world I would advise against using Cursor.
     
     What it is saying here is actually right. The code will become unmaintainable if you let these LLMs do everything for you because you will no longer understand your own codebase.
     
     I am not against LLMs as a technology, but I would advise heavily against Cursor because it is proprietary software and contains service as a software substitute.
     
     Please look at LLMs that you can run locally and modify instead if you find LLMs to be useful for your work.
     
     Do not make your workflow become dependent on third party services as that will always become an issue eventually.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 03:10:06 JST SuperDicq

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     • Rocket

     @Rocket@shitposter.world I get a lot of entertainment at looking at Cursor users in particular are posting online.
     
     A lot of Cursor users are the startup idea guy hype people who do not understand a single thing about programming and are not interested in learning anything about it.
     
     All they want is just Cursor to make them their perceived billion dollar app idea a reality in minutes. Just quick results without improving themselves as a person by acquiring new skills such as basic programming or how to use git. Or you know, just using your brain in general.

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     Rocket (rocket@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 03:22:37 JST Rocket

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     @SuperDicq I run open source as much as possible. Cursor is about $200 per year. I can't even get started on local open source AI without a significant hardware investment. A local rig to run deepseek costs $6000. And that's ignoring that cursor works out of the box today with no hassle. If there's anything open source that's anywhere close, I haven't heard of it. Next time I buy hardware I will definitely buy something more ai capable, but my current hardware isn't. I'm not planning to replace it for a few years.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 03:22:37 JST SuperDicq

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     • Rocket

     @Rocket@shitposter.world I don't like to say open source because I am part of the free software movement.
     
     The free software movement is not about money, it is about freedom.
     
     The reason why you shouldn't become dependent SaaSS is not because it costs money, but because of power dynamics.
     
     At any point Cursor can go away, change their terms of service, change their features, etc. It might not work the way it works today and it could change without notice and without your permission.
     
     Also worth mentioning is that they can spy on every request the program makes to their server.
     
     I'm not an AI expert and I don't know too much about the performance of the various available LLMs at the moment, but I do know that indeed most of them struggle with large context sizes (such as thousands of lines of codes).
     
     I also know in part that Cursor fixes this by indexing your project in a way that the LLM can easily understand it with a very minimum context or token size.
     
     There's various free software scripts that do similar stuff, and they will only become better over time. It usually doesn't take very long for free software to catch up with stuff like this, even though it is always little bit behind the curve.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 03:35:24 JST SuperDicq

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     • Rocket

     @Rocket@shitposter.world And also speaking of it costwise.
     
     Because LLMs require a lot of computing power they unfortunately do not make a lot of sense for everyone to get a computer that is fast enough to run them properly.
     
     If you bought a $6000 machine only to prompt it a few times a day to aid you in programming that would be very wasteful because that machine would be sitting there doing nothing most of the time while you're not actively using it.
     
     I do think this makes a lot of sense for in organizations or groups of friends or anything similar however.
     
     Imagine if you had an organization with 10 employees. You can buy the $6000 machine and all 10 employees can use it. While with a SaaSS program such as Cursor you are paying 10*200 = $20000 per year now.
     
     So basically, if you buy powerful computer hardware that you're not actively using 247, share some of that computing power with other people and share the cost.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 03:40:11 JST SuperDicq

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     @Rocket@shitposter.world Yeah actually insane, I don't think the average organization with ~10 employees wants to pay 40k a year (basically enough to hire another full time salary) for this.

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     Rocket (rocket@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 03:40:12 JST Rocket

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     @SuperDicq Enterprise cursor licenses cost twice as much as "pro" 😆
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 03:57:02 JST SuperDicq

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     @Rocket@shitposter.world Sorry, my bad calculating.
     I think you would be surprised how much businesses spend for software licensing/cloud services.I am very aware and I find it really wasteful.

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     Rocket (rocket@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Mar-2025 03:57:03 JST Rocket

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     @SuperDicq It would be $4k per year for 10 developers. I think you would be surprised how much businesses spend for software licensing/cloud services.