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    Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 (gcvsa@mstdn.plus)'s status on Saturday, 08-Mar-2025 05:03:03 JST Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐

    This post makes me think of something that I've been pointing out for many years, and that is the fact that the government is permitted to make "mistakes" and ruin people's lives, pretty much with total impunity and immunity.

    The government can place you under false arrest, cause immense immediate and irrevocable damage to your life, and there are almost never any legal consequences or compensation for it.

    https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/114121067006477074

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      Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 (gcvsa@mstdn.plus)'s status on Saturday, 08-Mar-2025 05:02:59 JST Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐
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      Rescinding birthright citizenship under Amendment XIV would require the government to definitively establish the citizenship status of all 330+ million people in America.

      This is obviously an impossible task, but the techie douchebag billionaires and their subordinate tech worshippers behind the Trump Administration (Musk, Thiel, etc, and their little douchebag hacker boys) want to believe they can do all this by computer, and they don't care about any errors.

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      Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 (gcvsa@mstdn.plus)'s status on Saturday, 08-Mar-2025 05:02:59 JST Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐
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      The reality is, it would take a generation or more to establish a national identity system, if we even wanted to do that—AND WE SHOULD NOT WANT TO DO THAT MUCH LESS ACTUALLY DO IT.

      The reality is, they will simply round up whoever they think doesn't fit the Aryan Nazi model, "and let God sort them out".

      Selective and discretionary enforcement is one of the greatest dangers to Liberty imaginable.

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      Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 (gcvsa@mstdn.plus)'s status on Saturday, 08-Mar-2025 05:03:00 JST Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐
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      I am a natural born citizen of the United States. Like most natural born citizens, the only actual legal proof of citizenship I possess, because that is how it is normally done, under the provisions of Amendment XIV, is my birth certificate.

      It is not customary in the US for people to carry around their birth certificate, and as I've already pointed out, police can and will simply claim that my documents "appeared to be false identification", even if I did carry it.

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      Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 (gcvsa@mstdn.plus)'s status on Saturday, 08-Mar-2025 05:03:00 JST Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐
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      There is no system of national identification in the US. We have a de facto hodgepodge of state-issued driver's licenses, state (and/or municipally) issued birth certificates, Social Security numbers (which by law are not supposed to be identification documents), US passports, and immigration/naturalization papers.

      In all of these categories, there are Americans who do not have and have never had one or more of these documents.

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      • Wyatt H Knott

      And there wouldn't even be any consequences to the personnel involved for having "made a mistake", because as @whknott points out, there is a legal shield doctrine that presumes that officers are always acting in "good faith", and obviously trying to prove otherwise is effectively impossible, unless someone blatantly admits otherwise and directly implicates themselves or fellow officers.

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      Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 (gcvsa@mstdn.plus)'s status on Saturday, 08-Mar-2025 05:03:02 JST Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐
      in reply to

      A side effect of this is something I have also pointed out many times. US Customs and Border Patrol claims very wide latitude in violating Americans' constitutional guarantees within the 100-mile border zone (in which I have lived, most of my life).

      As a person who is frequently mistaken for Latino/Hispanic/Chicano, if they decide to harass me, no amount of documentation is a shield, because they can simply claim that my documents appeared to be forged or make up some other unfalsifiable lie.

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      Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 (gcvsa@mstdn.plus)'s status on Saturday, 08-Mar-2025 05:03:02 JST Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐 Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐
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      I could very easily spend an indefinite time in detention being tortured, causing irreparable damage to my life, my health, my finances, and my public reputation, as the result of the racist, sexist, or anti-LGBT whims of a DHS thug, and there would be no legal recourse for me, whatsoever. And if I attempted to resist in any way, I could be brought up on criminal charges or even summarily murdered.

      All I'd get is a "sorry about that", while they sneer at me right to my face, if I even survived.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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