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   Christian Schwägerl (christianschwaegerl@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 19:35:33 JST Christian Schwägerl

   • Jon S. von Tetzchner
   • Vivaldi

   @jon @Vivaldi Matters a lot - Chromium is a party stopper though. I‘d like to have truely European alternative.

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     Jon S. von Tetzchner (jon@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 19:35:29 JST Jon S. von Tetzchner

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     • sorenladegaard

     @sorenladegaard @christianschwaegerl @Vivaldi

     We have the experience of having built our own engine at Opera. It was called Presto and it was great. Best engine out there, IMHO, but we ran into issues where we were being blocked from accessing content. Often by competitor sites, but also others.

     I would have loved to build another engine, but there is a reason why Apple, Google, Microsoft and others decided not to do that and use an open source browser core. Thus we did the same. Building another engine from scratch is just not feasible for us.

     Given our experience with Opera, it would also be important to go with what most are using, so going with Chromium made sense. Less compatibility issues.

     The other option would have been Gecko, but at the time that we made our decision, Gecko was going through significant rewrites.

     I have also understood, that Mozilla is not always thrilled with competitors using their code. They are a highly competitive company.

     There are a lot of issues with using Chromium, but we still believe it was the right choice. We have made a lot of patches, 2000 files, and we have added a lot of our own code on top.

     Vivaldi is unique. We have a lot of functionality you find nowhere else and plenty that we originated. I hope you enjoy it.

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     Jon S. von Tetzchner (jon@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 19:35:31 JST Jon S. von Tetzchner

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     • sorenladegaard

     @sorenladegaard @christianschwaegerl @Vivaldi

     Opera used to have its own engine, but it got abandoned after I left them.

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     sorenladegaard (sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 19:35:31 JST sorenladegaard

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     • Jon S. von Tetzchner
     • Vivaldi

     @jon @christianschwaegerl @Vivaldi I was wondering if you might be interested in writing about your choice of engine for Vivaldi? Why Chromium? And how associated wirh Google and “big tech” is it?

     Capitã Obvio repeated this.
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     sorenladegaard (sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 19:35:32 JST sorenladegaard

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     • Jon S. von Tetzchner
     • Vivaldi

     @christianschwaegerl @jon @Vivaldi Opera has its own engine. And used to be Norwegian. But then Chinese bought them 🤪