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   Steve Bellovin (stevebellovin@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 08:40:34 JST Steve Bellovin

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   • Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:

   @adamshostack One reason I use slides for almost all of my class lectures is your #2: there are many such students, especially in our graduate programs. I also make the slides available to the students (and everyone else in the world…), ever since I saw non-English speakers at IETF meetings taking pictures of the screen.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 08:40:34 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:

     @SteveBellovin @adamshostack
     I loathe text-heavy slides. The research I’ve seen says that when people are hearing •and• reading the same info at the same time, they listen worse and retain less than they would have from hearing •or• seeing alone. My experience bears this out.

     My own thoughts, because nobody asked:

     - Short text that anchors and summarizes is great. Key points concisely stated really help people who are getting lost in details due to lang or attention issues.

     - Half the time, a long slide should just move into speaker notes.

     - Sharing speaker notes is awesome.

     - Factual “you should remember these details” sort of learning should never happen through lecture alone. Lecture itself is a deeply problematic pedagogical mechanism.

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     Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified: (adamshostack@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 08:40:35 JST Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:

     I prefer text heavy slides, because they're useful to an audience who (1) loses the thread (2) doesn't speak english as a first language (3) wants to tweet screenshots.

     Does anyone actually prefer a technical conference talk where the slides are all pictures? (Assuming clipart, LLM-generated, etc, not custom graphics)