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@vokainen099 @j yeah I am saying, seeding is what got you caught. Meta is saying they didn't seed (or not much). but they are releasing a model based on that data so obviously they are still infringing even if they didn't seed
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@sun @vokainen099 @j it’s not obvious in a legal sense, the output of a training session isn’t copyrightable (because it’s the output of an algorithm) so using copyrighted material as input might not be a copyright violation in itself. (This is the angels on a pin stuff that IP law leads to)
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@lain @vokainen099 @j that's fair, that is downstream of the terrible seeding argument though. They're lawyers though, obv they are going to try any argument they can
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@vokainen099 @sun if that's what's going to happen then the world really is healing. But man seeding is illegal? Imagine going to prison because you seeded a torrent to Facebook. You broke the law but they didn't. Holy shit that's dystopian.
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@sun @j Would be funny to see corpos demolishing the same copyright laws they lobbied for just because they want to push AI now