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   Nicholas Sarwark (nsarwark@universeodon.com)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 06:27:04 JST Nicholas Sarwark

   “With Ukrainians and Europeans not present at these talks (at least as I understand this at this moment), Putin will likely get his way on the essential issues. One American official or another has already conceded most of them in public (although, admittedly, they then often walked themselves back or were contradicted by others). Trump and Musk have been repeating Russian talking points for years. Putin will (it appears) be treated as a legitimate partner, he will go unpunished for his war crimes, he will make de facto territorial gains from his war of aggression, and he will get to dictate the terms Ukrainian domestic politics. He will celebrate a victory, and he will prepare the next war, in the total confidence that no resistance from the United States is possible.

   Russia, in other words, will gain power from American diplomacy that it could not conceivably have gained on the battlefield.” -Timothy Snyder

   https://snyder.substack.com/p/affirmative-action-for-dictators

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     Steve Foerster 🌐 (stevefoerster@social.fossdle.org)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Feb-2025 09:59:14 JST Steve Foerster 🌐

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     @nsarwark Just because the Americans are selling out Ukraine doesn't mean Europeans have to. I realize Europeans are being pushed into charting their own post-Atlanticist destiny when they otherwise might not have, but they may as well make the best of it.

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