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   Nicholas Laney (nicholaslaney@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:53:47 JST Nicholas Laney

   • Håkan Geijer

   @hakan_geijer
   You may be right.
   But are we saviors or are we here to support them?

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     John Brown Type Beats (johnbrowntypebeats@kolektiva.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:38:14 JST John Brown Type Beats

     • Håkan Geijer

     @hakan_geijer
     when you see how the pain of men, boys, and masculine people is minimized and erased, you'll never stop seeing it

     you might get the message to not mention it, though

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     Niedliche Nacktschnecke (niedlichenacktschnecke@kolektiva.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:40:13 JST Niedliche Nacktschnecke

     • Håkan Geijer

     @hakan_geijer David graeber wrote about this in the bullies pulpit

     https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-the-bully-s-pulpit

     > There seems, indeed, a decided lack of sympathy for noncombatant men in war zones. Even reports by international human rights organizations speak of massacres as being directed almost exclusively against women, children, and, perhaps, the elderly. The implication, almost never stated outright, is that adult males are either combatants or have something wrong with them. (“You mean to say there were people out there slaughtering women and children and you weren’t out there defending them? What are you? Chicken?”) Those who carry out massacres have been known to cynically manipulate this tacit conscription: most famously, the Bosnian Serb commanders who calculated they could avoid charges of genocide if, instead of exterminating the entire population of conquered towns and villages, they merely exterminated all males between ages fifteen and fifty-five.

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     Nicholas Laney (nicholaslaney@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:50:25 JST Nicholas Laney

     • Håkan Geijer

     @hakan_geijer
     You are right that arab men are treated as acceptable victims, and that the western radical narrative makes a symbol of women and children.
     On the other hand many of these men would agree that stopping violence on women and children is the priority.
     This doesn't mean that male victims should be disregarded, or that everything they say should be accepted acritically, but they should be listened to, even if we don't completely agree with their point of view.

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     Nicholas Laney (nicholaslaney@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:56:46 JST Nicholas Laney

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     • Håkan Geijer

     @hakan_geijer
     Of course nothing should be accepted as a given, but we shouldn't decide what is an effective strategy without them.