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   feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 04:45:55 JST feld
   @EnfysBook they can still read your messages through the keyboard and screen reading.
   
   keyboard: autocorrect, autocomplete. We haven't positively observed them doing it yet, but they have full permissions to. The software keyboard is a major security vector we put a lot of trust into.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:22 JST feld

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     • Patrys
     @patrys @EnfysBook aren't people assuming malicious intent with e.g., Apple Intelligence?
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     Patrys (patrys@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:24 JST Patrys

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     @feld @EnfysBook If you don’t trust Google or Apple at that level, why use an OS that can literally do what it wants: not just through the keyboard APIs, but also through the a11y APIs, through screen reading, unrestricted memory access, etc.?

     It’s one thing to limit potential information leaks. It’s another to assume malicious intent.

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 04:00:46 JST feld

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     @patrys @EnfysBook there's been a rumor going around that it's keylogging and sending it all every 15 mins (Apple Intelligence Report) but it's actually logging what it has been doing on your local device and you can export the report for your own review. A literal transparency report. That doesn't contain any sensitive info.
     
     I don't even think it leaves your device
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     Patrys (patrys@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 04:00:47 JST Patrys

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     @feld @EnfysBook I hope not. They let you control what the AI can see, and being hostile towards your customers is a poor business model (I'm not holding corporations to any moral standards here).

     I think people are afraid it will accidentally learn sensitive information and possibly leak it in the future (though it’s still contained to your local device). (1/2)

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     Tor Lillqvist (tml@urbanists.social)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Feb-2025 04:14:23 JST Tor Lillqvist

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     • Patrys

     @patrys @feld @EnfysBook Or in the actual OS kernel. I find it hilarious when people say that they don’t trust Google or Apple and you need to turn off this or that setting. Don’t they realise that everything they input on the phone passes through the OS kernel? Why do they trust that the kernel doesn’t do anything bad with the input?

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