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    clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 09:12:59 JST clacke clacke

    Risbergska Skolan in Örebro was attacked by a shooter.

    Not much information is being provided yet, but from indirect information, the school was a school for adults, including "Swedish for Immigrants", most people interviewed have a foreign accent and the local mosque is staying open for mourners, so it seems to indicate a xenophobic attack against immigrants, or possibly an immigrant attacking those around him (it is a man).

    Eleven are dead so far and over a dozen are injured.

    "[Worst mass shooting in Swedish history]" (Swedish)

    svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/skolskj…

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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 09:13:07 JST clacke clacke
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      I will not be responding to any comments that are anywhere near to being reducible to "Sweden wouldn't have violence against foreigners if it didn't have foreigners", except with maybe a link to this comment.
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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 06-Feb-2025 09:48:43 JST clacke clacke
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      Billionaire idiot in the US is saying that mass media are quiet about this. Dude, you heard about it from mass media, and multiple heads of government have offered their official condolences.

      Media on the other side of the planet have commented that Sweden is in a state of national mourning. The Øresund Bridge between Sweden and Denmark is using spotlights to symbolize a Swedish flag at half mast.

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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 06-Feb-2025 10:22:40 JST clacke clacke
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      The Swedish police and media have been restrictive with details to prevent the spread of rumors and premature speculation. The motive is not yet clear.

      I believe I've kept my speculation above to a minimum and only to what someone with local Swedish knowledge would immediately infer from the sparse information provided. Here's why:

      1. When I hear "school shooting", I think of a teenager shooting up a middle school, which would represent a worrying and sudden shift in how Swedish society operates.
      2. When I hear about a mass murder in Europe, I worry that it's going to be a demonstration by someone like ISIS (which is 99% eliminated, but not 100%) that they have reach into the core of Western populations. An attack like that might mean that the US will be triggered to do something disproportionate to some unrelated country.
      3. If not those two things, it could have been an escalation in gang violence.

      The intitial reports said nothing direct to eliminate these possible meanings, but from the indirect information, it's neither of those things. The release of the attacker's identity confirms it, he's a 35-year old man of Swedish heritage who used to go to the school, not a kid, not a jihadist, not someone unrelated to the school.

      What's new for Sweden is the horrifying magnitude of the attack.

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      Doug Whitfield [Minneapolis] (musicman@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 06-Feb-2025 10:23:08 JST Doug Whitfield [Minneapolis] Doug Whitfield [Minneapolis]
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      @clacke it's really not worth the stress on your fingers to refute what he said. I don't know or care who said it, but I feel pretty confident it's a he. I have two in mind. Don't let them live rent free in your head.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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      Björn Lindström (bkhl@social.sdfeu.org)'s status on Thursday, 06-Feb-2025 15:31:53 JST Björn Lindström Björn Lindström
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      @clacke don't know if you missed that Aftonbladet did speculate wildly, and published an article pointing out the wrong person as the suspect and later pulling the article.

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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 06-Feb-2025 15:49:45 JST clacke clacke
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      • Björn Lindström

      @bkhl I saw some names of columnists or editors, but I'm not up to date on the names of who works where.

      People were talking about being careful with speculation, and admonishing me on another network, which is what prompted my comment.

      I admit that while "xenophobic" isn't a stretch, it is speculation. Hypothetically he could have been attacking random people and his former school just happens to be in an area near a mosque.

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