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   Janneke (janneke@todon.nl)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 06:09:59 JST Janneke

   • Freedom Internet
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   TL:DR; can you recommend an email provider that supports sieve and works for email based development and doesn't block/reject any valid emails?

   Okay. I've been doing email based development for over 25y now using the amazing, multiple times award winning internetprovider #xs4all.

   Sadly, xs4all was killed by the Dutch telecom giant #KPN. Email-wise this means that #sieve support was dropped and a helpdesk is virtually non-existing.

   So I switched to @freedominternet but they don't have the skills to do email and outsourced it to #soverin. They do support sieve (sort of via a clumsy web interface), but they keep rejecting valid emails (some four a day) sent to development lists. The helpdesk takes weeks to respond with a useless answer. This is terrible.

   Self-hosting (as we did in the old days) might be an option but I'm not up to date with what is needed. A #Guix recipe for an email server setup with dovecot and sieve would be amazing here (but knowledge on how to create that seems hard to get <https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2024-09/msg00017.html>)

   Anyway until we have that, any amazing email provider can you recommend?

   Cc: @angrynerdspodcast
   #askFedi #dtv

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     Janneke (janneke@todon.nl)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 06:26:25 JST Janneke

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     • Andy Wingo
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     @wingo @freedominternet @angrynerdspodcast thanks!

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     Andy Wingo (wingo@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 06:26:26 JST Andy Wingo

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     @janneke @freedominternet @angrynerdspodcast i use fastmail. they do sieve. they have been fine for me

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     Andrew Tropin (abcdw@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 15:43:29 JST Andrew Tropin

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     @janneke @freedominternet @angrynerdspodcast
     I made a list of email providers some time ago, can be helpful:

     https://github.com/abcdw/notes/blob/80244fe/notes/20230313143331-mail_providers.org?plain=1#L1

     I use migadu, afaik they use sieve, not sure if they expose it, but their support is very responsive.

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     Janneke (janneke@todon.nl)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 15:43:29 JST Janneke

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     • Andrew Tropin
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     @abcdw @freedominternet @angrynerdspodcast thanks!