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   Santiago (santiago@mastodon.uy)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 01:52:42 JST Santiago

   • Serge from Babka

   @serge i dunno if protocols should tackle abstract things like the truth, good or evil, but concrete things like an attachment, a property of an object, right?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 01:52:40 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Serge from Babka

     @santiago @serge Kind of. The abstract things are the motivations for implementing part of a protocol -- say, wanting to show a photo to a friend. The more concrete things, attaching a photo to a note, are the way that you satisfy that need.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 06:34:48 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Serge from Babka

     @santiago @serge thanks, good note.

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     Santiago (santiago@mastodon.uy)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 06:34:49 JST Santiago

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     • Serge from Babka

     @evan @serge but a concrete thing like a photo or a note on a photo will still be a photo or a note on a photo, over time. The thing is that what you state as a fact today, is a result of a consensus that may be different tomorrow. It's like trying to build enshittification-free social network. It's impossible because we humans carry our miseries wherever we go, so what protocols and platforms should focus on, imho, is in building good administration tools and solutions for concrete and tangible things and leave the complex ones, ind i mean that things that require skills beyond a mere sysadmin (like tell is something is a fact or not), to humans. Which humans? i dunno, time will tell. The real struggle in the fediverse and decentralized social media lies on finding good administrators and moderators that communities will eventually choose. I think. Build a fact-thing in a protocol, and it'll bite you in the future, full stop.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 09:08:20 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Serge from Babka

     @santiago @serge not at all

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     Santiago (santiago@mastodon.uy)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 09:08:21 JST Santiago

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     • Serge from Babka

     @evan @serge excuse for my sloppy english. I'll use a translator maybe next time! :ablobpeek:

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 11:56:31 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Serge from Babka

     @santiago @serge I'm now following you! I hope I enjoy your posts too. Are you in Montevideo or Punta del Este or...?

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     Santiago (santiago@mastodon.uy)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 11:56:33 JST Santiago

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     • Evan Prodromou
     • Serge from Babka

     @evan @serge I remember you Evan from times of Identi.ca, more than 10 yrs ago, the pre-snowden era. I enjoy your posts very much. Thanks for your reply.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 12:31:21 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Serge from Babka

     @santiago @serge nice! What a beautiful place to be!

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     Santiago (santiago@mastodon.uy)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 12:31:22 JST Santiago

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     • Evan Prodromou
     • Serge from Babka

     @evan @serge Nither of them, i live in El Pinar which is a sub-urban resort in Canelones, 30km east of Montevideo. Is also where the server is located/self-hosted.