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   kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 19:02:04 JST kaia
   what do you use to manage Python venvs? I tried pyenv, but it complicated :floofWoozy_256:
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 19:03:34 JST lainy

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     @kaia i use asdf for all kinds of version management, for venvs i just make them directly with python -m venv folder
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     m0xEE (m0xee@social.librem.one)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 19:06:54 JST m0xEE

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     @lain @kaia
     > i just make them directly with python -m venv folder
     Same. And never update!
     (Unless updating Python itself causes breakage, which was the case with 3.13 when they removed cgi from the standard library😩)

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 19:07:22 JST kaia

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     @m0xee @lain 3.13 broke all my venvs :02sad:
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 19:08:17 JST lainy

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     @kaia @m0xee with asdf you can make a .tool-versions file in each folder and that will keep the version in that folder the same forever
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     Steffo (steffo@a.junimo.party)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 19:09:49 JST Steffo

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     @kaia i'm a fan of uv at the moment

     https://docs.astral.sh/uv/

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     Pink (can@haz.pink)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 19:10:02 JST Pink

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     @kaia my PyCharm IDE

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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 19:22:01 JST :umu: :umu:

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     @kaia I don't.
     
     break-system-packages go 'b' + 'r' * 10
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     saint podiatron (goatmeal@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 19:22:08 JST saint podiatron

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     @kaia @lain @m0xee I thought people just use conda to deal with that, like from miniforge
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 20:41:19 JST :blank:

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     @lain @kaia the new hotness for python is https://github.com/astral-sh/uv though, since you can do things like uv run --python 3.13 --with pandas python or embed a comment in your script that describes the requirements https://simonwillison.net/2024/Dec/19/one-shot-python-tools/
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     受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 20:41:25 JST 受不了包

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     @lain@lain.com @kaia@brotka.st i do this too, i love asdf-vm, also direnv

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