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   iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 04:41:04 JST iced depresso
   modern environmentalism is when you kill all the chickens because of carbon and then install six new datacenters to run spam generating GPT models
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 04:46:39 JST iced depresso

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     @tiskaan2 vaguely related but stafford beer proved accelerationism works :blobcatgoogly:
     
     he didn't know this. in the books he's like well if the variety of a system exceeds a system's ability to reason about it then the organism dies to the environment
     
     so making it too chaotic for anything to function.. actually is viable, if derp
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     tiskaan2@misskey.bubbletea.dev's status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 04:46:40 JST tiskaan2

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     @icedquinn@blob.cat accelerate towards productive degrowth (collapse)

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 04:50:58 JST iced depresso

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     @tiskaan2 he already speaks of disturbances and systems not necessarily understanding all causes of them
     
     a black swan is just a disturbance that was literally unfathomable to predict, so it would be covered already i think
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     tiskaan2@misskey.bubbletea.dev's status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 04:50:59 JST tiskaan2

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     @icedquinn@blob.cat mewonders what stafford beer would thibk of stuff like black swans and antifragility. probably some interesting synthesis there truth be told

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 04:58:04 JST iced depresso

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     @tiskaan2 beer has a few (designing freedom, brain of the firm, heart of enterprise)
     
     i read designing freedom but i haven't finished brain of the firm. also ashby's introduction to cybernetics.
     
     taleb isn't a cyberneticist, and beer doesn't really go in to black swans, its just that "event i cannot mentally process" is sort of already part of the definition of systems
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     tiskaan2@misskey.bubbletea.dev's status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 04:58:05 JST tiskaan2

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     @icedquinn@blob.cat i only vaguely remember the yt vid about "why everything sucks" by him but i never got into details with that shytt.
     i tried to get into nobert wieners book but i barely out a dwnt in it because its rpettt mathenatical.
     does beer have a book?

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     tiskaan2@misskey.bubbletea.dev's status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 05:05:49 JST tiskaan2

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     @icedquinn@blob.cat i ahould really read posts before replying

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 05:07:01 JST iced depresso

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     @tiskaan2 :blobcatgooglycry: what
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     tiskaan2@misskey.bubbletea.dev's status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 05:07:02 JST tiskaan2

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     @icedquinn@blob.cat 😭 quinn you rude mf