Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   julesh (julesh@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 21:47:31 JST julesh

   • Zanzi @ Monoidal Cafe

   Here's something that @zanzi and me were talking about just a few days ago. Both of us feel like back in the day (10 or 15 years ago?) there was a big flame war of OOP vs functional programming (at least it was a flame war to the small minority of people who had heard of FP). Of course even back then I was taught that working effectively in an OOP language often involved working around the OOP features: "favour composition over inheritance".

   Now OOP in industry looks like just a shell of its former might. But even the imperative-vs-functional distinction feels less relevant in practice. Perhaps it's just that I know better programmers now, including getting better myself. But I feel like in many ways the industrial Haskell I write and see is extremely similar to the industrial Python I write and see. Which is to say, mostly referentially transparent except in the few corners where it's more convenient to do imperative things.

   • Embed this notice
     Robin Adams (robinadams@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:34:51 JST Robin Adams

     in reply to

     • Zanzi @ Monoidal Cafe

     @julesh @zanzi Languages are all multi-paradigm now. Java and Python have had lambdas, map, filter, reduce and all that for a long time. There is no reason at all why a language can't be an object oriented language and a functional language.

     Looking back I think it was JavaScript (of all things) that led the way.