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   tyil (tyil@fedi.tyil.nl)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 13:27:03 JST tyil

   • IFTAS

   @iftas@mastodon.iftas.org I was under the impression most Fediverse communities operate just on the whims of some guy hosting a server for his friends. The megaservers need donations to sustain themselves, but in general we shouldn't have megaservers to begin with anyway. The Fediverse strives on a large number of small instances, not a small number of large instances.
   
   Reminder to self-host a Fediverse instance, and to spread out across the platform if you're able to.

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     tyil (tyil@fedi.tyil.nl)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 04:10:06 JST tyil

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     • Nik
     • IFTAS

     @nikclayton@mastodon.social @iftas@mastodon.iftas.org There's a lesson here, but I don't think you see the same one.
     
     If your server costs were 500 bucks, you were hosting an instance that's too large. The reason the impact is high, is because they were too large of an instance. No instance should have more than 200 active users. If they kept it small, the cost would've been negligible, and any issues that wouldve prevented them from continuing the service would have had a minor impact on the Fediverse as a whole.
     
     The lesson is to stick to small instances, and have a huge amount of it. Don't try to be a megaserver, that's how it becomes unsustainable.

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     Nik (nikclayton@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 04:10:07 JST Nik

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     • IFTAS

     @tyil @iftas Here's an object lesson in the problems that can happen if you do that, and that most people are woefully under prepared for.

     https://web.archive.org/web/20240923122229/https://blog.strangeobject.space/posts/2024-09-23-shutting-down.html

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     tyil (tyil@fedi.tyil.nl)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 04:52:20 JST tyil

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     • George Lund

     @georgelund@urbanists.social @iftas@mastodon.iftas.org I don't have any numbers to argue whether that's true or not either way.
     
     However, if a few big ones are dominating right now, that's a very big concern. You're just recreating the issues the big proprietary platforms have but with extra steps. I would like to not actively plan to introduce those kinds of problems, so I would still call for less donations to megaservers, and using the few bucks instead to spin up more small servers. For 5 bucks you can easily host 10-20 people, so if you're the technical guy in your friends group, be that friend that hosts for them.

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     George Lund (georgelund@urbanists.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 04:52:21 JST George Lund

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     • IFTAS

     @tyil @iftas I doubt that's true, I expect more users are on big or medium servers than all the small ones combined? And if that's true now, still relatively in the early adoption phase, it can only be more true if we want communities where there is no technical or moderation expertise, both of which need to be done properly or not at all