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   Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 11:06:39 JST Rich Felker

   FYI ProtonMail is cryptofash (now not so crypto).

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 11:12:38 JST Rich Felker

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     • zrb

     @zrb It's nowhere near as bad as people make it sound.

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     zrb (zrb@astrodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 11:12:40 JST zrb

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     @dalias ah shit ah fuck, now I gotta go back to square one in finding a privacy-respecting email service

     if only self-hosting an email server (and then making sure outgoing emails are actually received and not blocked) weren't such a gargantuan torture

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     them (them@todon.nl)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 15:54:07 JST them

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     @dalias Want to add also Brave, SimpleX Chat and Session to that category.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 15:54:59 JST Rich Felker

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     @them Yes, Brave, SimpleX Chat and Session are also cryptofash (really not that crypto either).

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 18:28:20 JST Rich Felker

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     @zrb The normal way is installing postfix, and possibly proxying outbound connections thru a VPS on a reputable hosting provider if your port 25 is blocked or bad-rep.

     This does not give the VPS host access to your outbound mail contents if you're forcing STARTTLS* because TLS is terminated on your side.

     I'm running custom software far simpler than postfix on mine.

     (* unless they're actively MITM'ing with a forged certificate and either the recipient server isn't using DANE or you're not validating it)

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     zrb (zrb@astrodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 18:28:21 JST zrb

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     @dalias I'm very open to references / suggestions on how to set it up!