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    Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:06:27 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow

    Truth is provisional! Sometimes, the things we understand to be true about the world change, and stuff we've "always done" has to change, too. There comes a day when the evidence against using radium suppositories is overwhelming, and then you really *must* dig that radium out of your colon and safely dispose of it:

    https://pluralistic.net/2024/09/19/just-stop-putting-that-up-your-ass/#harm-reduction

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:06:29 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

      https://pluralistic.net/2025/01/13/wanting-it-badly/#is-not-enough

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:06:52 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      So it's natural and right that in the world, there will be people who want to revisit the received wisdom and best practices for how we live our lives, regulate our economy, and organize our society. But not a license to simply throw out the systems we rely on. Sure, maybe they're outdated or unnecessary, but maybe not.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:07:17 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      That's where "Chesterton's Fence" comes in:

      > Let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, "I don't see the use of this; let us clear it away." To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: "If you don't see the use of it, I certainly won't let you clear it away. Go away and think.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:07:44 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      > "Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it."

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#Chesterton's_fence

      In other words, it's not enough to say, "This principle gets in the way of something I want to do, so let's throw it out because I'm sure the inconvenience I'm experiencing is worse than the consequences of doing away with it." You need to have a *theory* of how you will prevent the harms the principle protects us from once you tear it down.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:07:54 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      That theory *can* be "the harms are imaginary" so it doesn't matter. Like, if you get rid of all the measures that defend us from hexes placed by evil witches, it's OK to say, "This is safe because evil witches aren't real and neither are hexes."

      But you'd better be sure! After all, some preventative measures work so well that no living person has experienced the harms they guard us against. It's easy to mistake these for imaginary or exaggerated.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:08:03 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Think of the antivaxers who are ideologically committed to a world in which human beings do not have a shared destiny, meaning that no one has a moral claim over the choices you make. Motivated reasoning lets those people rationalize their way into imagining that measles - a deadly and ferociously contagious disease that was a scourge for millennia until we all but extinguished it - was no big deal:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles:_A_Dangerous_Illness

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:08:16 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      There's nothing wrong with asking whether longstanding health measures need to be carried on, or whether they can be sunset. But antivaxers' sloppy, reckless reasoning about contagious disease is inexcusable. They were warned, repeatedly, about the mass death and widespread lifelong disability that would follow from their pursuit of an ideological commitment to living as though their decisions have no effect on others.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:08:25 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      They pressed ahead anyway, inventing ever-more fanciful reasons why health is a purely private matter, and why "public health" was either a myth or a Communist conspiracy:

      https://www.conspirituality.net/episodes/brief-vinay-prasad-pick-me-campaign

      When RFK Jr kills your kids with measles or permanently disables them with polio, he doesn't get to say "I was just inquiring as to the efficacy of a longstanding measure, as is right and proper."

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:08:41 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      He was told why the vaccine fence was there, and came up with objectively very stupid reasons why that didn't matter, and then he killed your kids. He was warned.

      Fuck that guy.

      Or take Bill Clinton. From 1933 until 1999, American banks were regulated under the Glass-Steagall Act, which "structurally separated" them. Under structural separation, a "retail bank" - the bank that holds your savings and mortgage and provides you with a checkbook - could not be "investment bank."

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:08:58 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      That meant it couldn't own or invest in businesses that competed with the businesses its depositors and borrowers ran. It couldn't get into other lines of business, either, like insurance underwriting.

      Glass-Steagall was a fence that stood between retail banks and the casino economy.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:09:19 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      It was there for a fucking *great* reason: the failure to separate banks allowed them to act like casinos, inflating a giant market bubble that popped on Black Friday in October 1929, kicking off the Great Depression. Congress built the structural separation fence to keep banks from doing it again.

      In the 1990s, Bill Clinton agitated for getting rid of Glass-Steagall. He argued that new economic controls would allow the government to prevent another giant bubble and crash.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:09:28 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      This time, the banks would behave themselves. After all, hadn't they demonstrated their prudence for seven decades?

      In fact, they hadn't. Every time banks figured out how to slip out of regulatory constraints they inflated another huge bubble, leading to another massive crash that made the rich obscenely richer and destroyed ordinary savers' lives. Clinton took office just as one of these finance-sector bombs - the S&L Crisis - was detonating.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:09:38 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Clinton had *no* basis - apart from wishful thinking - to believe that deregulating banks would lead to anything *but* another gigantic crash.

      But Clinton let his self interest - in presiding over a sugar-high economic expansion driven by deregulation - overrule his prudence (about the crash that would follow). Sure enough, in the last months of Clinton's presidency, the stock market imploded with the March 2020 dot-bomb.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:09:46 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      And because Congress learned nothing from the dot-com crash and declined to restore the Glass-Steagall fence, the crash led to *another* bubble, this time in subprime mortgages, and then, inevitably, we suffered the Great Financial Crisis.

      Look: there's no virtue in having bank regulations for the sake of having them. It is conceptually possible for bank regulations to be useless or even harmful.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:10:05 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      There's nothing wrong with investigating whether the 70-year old Glass-Steagall Act was still needed in 1999. But Clinton was provided with a *mountain* of evidence about why Glass-Steagall was the only thing standing between Americans and economic chaos, including the evidence of the S&L Crisis, which was still underway when he took office, and he ignored all of them.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:12:44 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      If you lost everything - your home, your savings, your pension - in the dot-bomb or the Great Financial Crisis, Bill Clinton is to blame. He was warned. he ignored the warnings.

      Fuck that guy.

      No, seriously, *fuck* Bill Clinton. Deregulating banks wasn't Clinton's only passion. He also wanted to ban working cryptography. The cornerstone of Clinton's tech policy was the "Clipper Chip," a backdoored encryption chip that, by law, every technology was supposed to use.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:12:54 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      If Clipper had gone into effect, then cops, spooks, and anyone who could suborn, bribe, or trick a cop or a spook could break into any computer, server, mobile device, or embedded system in America.

      When Clinton was told - over and over, in small, easy-to-understand words - that there was no way to make a security system that only worked when "bad guys" tried to break into it, but collapsed immediately if a "good guy" wanted to bypass it.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:13:03 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      We explained to him - oh, how we explained to him! - that working encryption would be all that stood between your pacemaker's firmware and a malicious update that killed you where you stood; all that stood between your antilock brakes' firmware and a malicious update that sent you careening off a cliff; all that stood between businesses and corporate espionage, all that stood between America and foreign state adversaries wanting to learn its secrets.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:13:19 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      In response, Clinton said the same thing that *all* of his successors in the Crypto Wars have said: NERD HARDER! Just figure it out. Cops need to look at bad guys' phones, so you need to figure out how to make encryption that keeps teenagers safe from sextortionists, but melts away the second a cop tries to unlock a suspect's phone. Take Malcolm Turnbull, the former Australian Prime Minister.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:13:29 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      When he was told that the laws of mathematics dictated that it was impossible to build selectively effective encryption of the sort he was demanding, he replied, "The laws of mathematics are very commendable but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia":

      https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/07/australian-pm-calls-end-end-encryption-ban-says-laws-mathematics-dont-apply-down

      Fuck that guy. Fuck Bill Clinton. Fuck a succession of UK Prime Ministers who have repeatedly attempted to ban working encryption. Fuck 'em all.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:13:43 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      The stakes here are obscenely high. They have been warned, and all they say in response is "NERD HARDER!"

      https://pluralistic.net/2023/03/05/theyre-still-trying-to-ban-cryptography/

      Now, of course, "crypto means cryptography," but the *other* crypto - cryptocurrency - deserves a look-in here. Cryptocurrency proponents advocate for a system of deregulated money creation, AKA "wildcat currencies." They say, variously, that central banks are no longer needed; or that we *never* needed central banks to regulate the money supply.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:13:54 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Let's take away that fence. Why not? It's not fit for purpose today, and maybe it never was.

      Why do we have central banks? The Fed - which is far from a perfect institution and could use substantial reform or even replacement - was created because the age of wildcat currencies was a nightmare. Wildcat currencies created wild economic swings, massive booms and even bigger busts.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:14:43 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Wildcat currencies are why abandoned haunted mansions feature heavily in the American imagination: US towns and cities were dotted with giant mansions built by financiers who got rich as bubbles expanded, and lost it all in the crash.

      Prudent management of the money supply didn't end those booms and busts, but it substantially dampened them, ending the "business cycle" that once terrorized Americans, destroying their towns and livelihoods and wiping out their savings.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:14:52 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      It shouldn't surprise us that a new wildcat money sector, flogging "decentralized" cryptocurrencies (that they are nevertheless weirdly anxious to swap for your gross, boring old "fiat" money) has created a series of massive booms and busts, with insiders getting richer and richer, and retail investors losing everything.

      If there was ever any doubt about whether wildcat currencies could be made safe by putting them on a blockchain, it is gone.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:15:10 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Wildcat currencies are as dangerous today as they were in the 18th and 19th century - only moreso, since this new bad paper relies on the endless consumption of whole rainforests' worth of carbon, endangering not just our economy, but also the habitability of the planet Earth.

      And nevertheless, the Trump administration is promising a new crypto golden age (or, ahem, a Gilded Age).

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:15:22 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      And there are plenty of Democrats who continue to throw in with the rotten, corrupt crypto industry, which flushed billions into the 2024 election to bring Trump to office. The result is *absolutely* going to be more massive bubbles and life-destroying implosions. Fuck those guys. They were warned, and they did it anyway.

      Speaking of the climate emergency: greetings from smoky Los Angeles! My city's on fire.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:15:31 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      This was *not* an unforeseeable disaster. Malibu is the most on-fire place in the world:

      https://longreads.com/2018/12/04/the-case-for-letting-malibu-burn/

      Since 1919, the region has been managed on the basis of "total fire suppression." This policy continued long after science showed that this creates "fire debt" in the form of accumulated fuel. The longer you go between fires, the hotter and more destructive those fires become, and the relationship is nonlinear.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:16:02 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      A 50-year fire isn't 250% more intense than a 20-year fire: it's *50000%* worse.

      Despite this, California's invested peanuts in controlled burns, which has created biennial *uncontrolled* burns - wildfires that cost thousands of times more than any controlled burn.

      Speaking of underinvestment: PG&E has spent decades extracting dividends for its investors and bonuses for its execs, while engaging in near-total neglect of maintenance of its high-voltage transmission lines.

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      Even with normal winds, these lines routinely fall down and start blazes.

      But we don't have normal winds. The climate emergency has been steadily worsening for decades. LA is just the latest place to be on fire, or under water, or under ice, or baking in wet bulb temperatures. Last week in southern California, we were warned to expect gusts of *120mph*.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:16:26 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      They were warned. #ExxonKnew: in the early 1970s, Exxon's own scientists warned them that fossil fuel consumption would kick off climate change so drastic that it would endanger human civilzation. Exxon responded by burying the reports and investing in climate deniel:

      https://exxonknew.org/

      They were warned! Warned about fire debt. Warned about transmission lines. Warned about climate change.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:16:33 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      And specific, named people, who *individually* had the power to heed these warnings and stave off disaster, ignored the warnings. They didn't make honest mistakes, either: they ignored the warnings because doing so made them extraordinarily, disgustingly rich. They used this money to create dynastic fortunes, and have created entire lineages of ultra-wealthy princelings in $900,000 watches who owe it all to our suffering and impending dooml

      Fuck those guys. Fuck 'em all.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:16:43 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      We've had so many missed opportunities, chances to make good policy or at least not make bad policy. The enshitternet didn't happen on its own. It was the foreseeable result of choices - again, choices made by named individuals who became very wealthy by ignoring the warnings all around them.

      Let's go back to Bill Clinton, because more than anyone else, Clinton presided over some *terrible* technology regulations.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:16:52 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      In 1998, Clinton signed the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, a bill championed by Barney Frank (fuck that guy, too). Under Section 1201 of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, it's a felony, punishable by a five year prison sentence, and a $500,000 fine, to tamper with a "digital lock."

      That means that if HP uses a digital lock to prevent you from using third-party ink, it's a literal crime to bypass that lock.

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      Which is why HP ink now costs $10,000/gallon, and why you print your shopping lists with colored water that costs more, ounce for ounce, than the sperm of a Kentucky Derby winner:

      https://pluralistic.net/2024/09/30/life-finds-a-way/#ink-stained-wretches

      Clinton was warned that DMCA 1201 would soon metastasize into every kind of device.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:17:44 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Not just the games consoles and DVD players where it was then used, but medical implants, tractors, cars, appliances - anything you could put a chip into (Jay Freeman calls this "felony contempt of business-model"):

      https://pluralistic.net/2023/07/24/rent-to-pwn/#kitt-is-a-demon

      He ignored those warnings and signed the DMCA anyway (fuck that guy). Then, under GWB (fuck that guy), the US Trade Rep went all around the world demanding that America's trading partners adopt versions of this law (fuck that guy)

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:17:52 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      In 2001, the European Parliament capitulated, enacting the EU Copyright Directive, whose Article 6 is a copy-paste of DMCA 1201 (fuck all those people).

      Fast forward 20 years, and boy is there a lot of shit with microchips that can be boobytrapped with rent-extracting logic bombs that are illegal to research, describe, or disable.

      Like choo-choo trains.

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      Last year, the Polish hacking group Dragon Sector was contacted by a public sector train company whose Newag trains kept going out of service. The operator suspected that Newag had boobytrapped the trains to punish the train company for getting its maintenance from a third-party contractor. When Dragon Sector investigated, they discovered that Newag had indeed *riddled* the trains' firmware with boobytraps.

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      Trains that were taken to locations known to have third-party maintenance workshops were immediately bricked (hilariously, this bomb would detonate if trains just passed through stations *near* to these workshops, which is why another train company had to remove all the GPSes from its trains - they kept slamming to a halt when they approached a station near a third-party workshop).

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      But Newag's logic bombs would brick trains for *all kinds* of reasons - just keeping a train stationary for a few days would brick it. Installing third-party components in a locomotive would also trigger a bomb, bricking the train.

      In their talk at last year's Chaos Communications Congress, the Dragon Sector folks describe how they have been legally terrorized by Newag, which has repeatedly sued them for violating its "IP" by revealing its sleazy, corrupt business practices.

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      They also note that Newag *continues to sell lots of trains in Poland*, despite the widespread knowledge of its dirty business model, because public train operators are bound by procurement rules, and as long as Newag is the cheapest bidder, they get the contract:

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      The laws that let Newag make millions off a nakedly corrupt enterprise - and put the individuals who blew the whistle on it at risk of losing everything - were passed by Members of the European Parliament who were warned that this would happen, and they ignored those warnings, and now it's happening. Fuck those people, every one of 'em.

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      It's not just European parliamentarians who ignored warnings and did the bidding of the US Trade Representative, enacting laws that banned tampering with digital locks. In 2010, two Canadian Conservative Party ministers in the Stephen Harper government brought forward similar legislation. These ministers, Tony Clement (now a disgraced sex-pest and PPE grifter) and James Moore (today, a sleazeball white-shoe corporate lawyer), held a consultation on this proposal.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:19:32 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      6, 138 people wrote in to say, "Don't do this, it will be hugely destructive." *54* respondents wrote in support of it. Clement and Moore threw out the 6,138 opposing comments. Moore explained why: these were the "babyish" responses of "radical extremists." The law passed in 2012.

      Last year, the Canadian Parliament passed bills guaranteeing Canadians the Right to Repair and the right to interoperability.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:19:43 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      But Canadians can't act on either of these laws, because they would have to tamper with a digital lock to do so, and that's illegal, thanks to Tony Clement and James Moore. Who were warned. And who ignored those warnings. Fuck those guys:

      https://pluralistic.net/2024/11/15/radical-extremists/#sex-pest

      Back in the 1990s, Bill Clinton had a *ton* of proposals for regulating the internet, but nowhere among those proposals will you find a consumer privacy law.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:19:55 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      The last time an American president signed a consumer privacy law was 1988, when Reagan signed the Video Privacy Protection Act and ensured that Americans would never have to worry that video-store clerks where telling the newspapers what VHS cassettes they took home.

      In the years since, Congress has enacted exactly *zero* consumer privacy laws. None. This has allowed the out-of-control, unregulated data broker sector to metastasize into a cancer on the American people.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:20:07 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      This is an industry that fuels stalkers, discriminatory financial and hiring algorithms, and an ad-tech sector that lets advertisers target categories like "teenagers with depression," "seniors with dementia" and "armed service personnel with gambling addictions."

      When the people cry out for privacy protections, Congress - and the surveillance industry shills that fund them - say we don't need a privacy law. The market will solve this problem.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:20:25 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      People sell their privacy willingly, and it would be "undue interference in the market" if we took away your "freedom to contract" by barring companies from spying on you after you clicked the "I agree" button.

      These people have been repeatedly warned about the severe dangers to the American public - as workers, as citizens, as community members, and as consumers - from the national privacy free-for-all, and have done nothing. Fuck them, every one:

      https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/06/privacy-first/#but-not-just-privacy

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:20:39 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Now, even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and not every one of Bill Clinton's internet policies was terrible. He had exactly *one* great policy, and, ironically, that's the one there's the most energy for dismantling. That policy is Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (a law that was otherwise such a dumpster fire that the courts struck it down). Chances are, you have been systematically misled about the history, use, and language of Section 230.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:21:12 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Which is wild, because it's 26 words long and fits in a tweet:

      > No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.

      Section 230 was passed because when companies were held liable for their users' speech, they "solved" this problem by just blocking every controversial thing a user said. Without Section 230, there would be no Black Lives Matter, no #metoo
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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:21:20 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      There'd be no online spaces where the powerful were held to account. Meanwhile, rich and powerful people would continue to enjoy online platforms where they and their bootlickers could pump out the most grotesque nonsense imaginable, either because they owned those platforms (ahem, Twitter and Truth Social) or because rich and powerful people can afford the professional advice needed to navigate the content-moderation bureaucracies of large systems.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:21:30 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      We know exactly what the internet looks like when platforms are civilly liable for their users' speech: it's an internet where marginalized and powerless people are silenced, and where the people who've got a boot on their throats are the only voices you can hear:

      https://www.techdirt.com/2020/06/23/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-section-230-communications-decency-act/

      The evidence for this isn't limited to the era of AOL and Prodigy. In 2018, Trump signed SESTA/FOSTA, a law that held platforms liable for "sex trafficking."

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:21:46 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Advocates for this law - like Ashton Kutcher, who campaigns against sexual assault unless it involves one of his friends, in which case he petitions the judge for leniency - were warned that it would be used to shut down *all* consensual sex work online, making sex workers's lives *much* more dangerous. This warnings were *immediately* borne out, and they have been repeatedly borne out every month since.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:21:57 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Killing CDA 230 for sex work brought back pimping, exposed sex workers to grave threats to their personal safety, and made them *much* poorer:

      https://decriminalizesex.work/advocacy/sesta-fosta/what-is-sesta-fosta/

      It also pushed sex trafficking and other nonconsensual sex into privateforums that are much harder for law enforcement to monitor and intervene in, making it that much harder to catch sex traffickers:

      https://cdt.org/insights/its-all-downsides-hybrid-fosta-sesta-hinders-law-enforcement-hurts-victims-and-speakers/

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:22:18 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      This is *exactly* what SESTA/FOSTA's advocates were warned of. They were warned. They did it anyway. Fuck those people.

      Maybe you have a theory about how platforms can be held civilly liable for their users' speech without harming marginalized people in exactly the way that SESTA/FOSTA, it had better amount to more than "platforms are evil monopolists and CDA 230 makes their lives easier."

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:22:28 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Yes, they're evil monopolists. Yes, 230 makes their lives easier. But without 230, *small* forums - private message boards, Mastodon servers, Bluesky, etc - couldn't *possibly* operate.

      There's a reason Mark Zuckerberg wants to kill CDA 230, and it's not because he wants to send Facebook to the digital graveyard.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:22:42 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Zuck knows that FB can operate in a post-230 world by automating the deletion of all controversial speech, and he knows that small services that might "disrupt" Facebook's hegemony would be immediately extinguished by eliminating 230:

      https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/zuckerberg-calls-changes-techs-section-230-protections-rcna486

      It's depressing to see so many comrades in the fight against Big Tech getting suckered into carrying water for Zuck, demanding the eradication of CDA 230.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:22:50 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Please, I beg you: look at the evidence for what happens when you remove that fence. Heed the warnings. Don't be like Bill Clinton, or California fire suppression officials, or James Moore and Tony Clement, or the European Parliament, or the US Trade Rep, or cryptocurrency freaks, or Malcolm Turnbull.

      Or Ashton fucking Kutcher.

      Because, you know, *fuck those guys.*

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:23:07 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      *Picks and Shovels* is a new, standalone technothriller starring Marty Hench, my two-fisted, hard-fighting, tech-scam-busting forensic accountant. You can pre-order it on my latest Kickstarter, which features a brilliant audiobook read by Wil Wheaton:

      http://martinhench.com

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      Yes, tahnks!

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:56:57 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      @Viss Kickstarter.

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      Viss (viss@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:56:58 JST Viss Viss
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      @pluralistic does it help more if i buy the book on kickstarter or libro.fm?

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        Same audiobooks. Different story.
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        Libro.fm makes it possible for you to buy audiobooks directly through local bookstores.
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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:58:12 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      @whvholst Define "search engine."

      Is "alphabetical order" an aglorithmic recco? How about "sort by newest"? How about "Sort by newest, removing spam"?

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      Walter van Holst (whvholst@eupolicy.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:58:13 JST Walter van Holst Walter van Holst
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      @pluralistic How about "If you algorithmically recommend content you are liable unless you are a search engine"?

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:58:20 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      @Viss Thanks!

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      Viss (viss@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:58:21 JST Viss Viss
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      @pluralistic it shall be done!

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 05:04:01 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      @whvholst CDA 230 is not a common carrier rule.

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      Walter van Holst (whvholst@eupolicy.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 05:04:18 JST Walter van Holst Walter van Holst
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      @pluralistic To use a (of course flawed) metaphor from the past: we would hold a newspaper liable for libel if there was defamation on part of the newspaper, but would not hold liable the postal service through which that newspaper edition had been distributed. Because we recognised that postal service as a common carrier, whereas the editors and the publisher of that newspaper would not be recognised as such. So the point is less the algorithm, more the curation. /fin

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      Walter van Holst (whvholst@eupolicy.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 05:04:19 JST Walter van Holst Walter van Holst
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      @pluralistic These are all valid questions. The point still stands that the classic "common carrier" exemption for liability we like to grant to intermediaries has worked best in situations in which the intermediaries did not curate or otherwise touch what they were carrying. And especially social media and other platforms that remove a lot of agency over that curation process by using recommendation engines do not deserve such immunity. /1

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      Quinn Norton (quinn@social.circl.lu)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 05:25:26 JST Quinn Norton Quinn Norton
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      @pluralistic It's always gay kids and sex workers first into the wood chippers.

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      @spookyfm An interesting idea! I'll take it under consideration. Likely my next podcast will be my next Locus column, which is due out any day now (I know because I just got a calendar alert reminding me it's time to write the next one).

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      SpookyFM (spookyfm@nerdculture.de)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 00:00:50 JST SpookyFM SpookyFM
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      @pluralistic Cory, have you thought about reading this one on your podcast? I think it would make a great episode... I need some righteous fucking anger in my ears now and then. (Although to be fair there is definitely no shortage of that right now anyway... Still tho.)

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