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   mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jan-2025 13:09:36 JST mekka okereke :verified:

   • Charles 𝄢 H
   • Billiglarper
   • Christian Kent

   @billiglarper @ckent @celesteh

   Because the decisions are made by nerds, not athletes. The athletes tend to favour support for equal pay. The non-athletes are much more sexist about women coaching, playing with men than athletes.

   Full disclosure: I sit on a board with other athletes and nerds of all genders, that work towards equal and equitable pay for athletes. The NIL changes that our group drove have been one of the most impactful increases in earning potential in US women's sports in decades.

   And pro powerlifters and jocks don't get mad at the below very obvious fact, but most nerds that don't powerlift get very upset by it:

   https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/112390746687431565

   But we're super far off topic at this point. I'm disengaging, because I think we agree on the big things, but it's OK if we don't agree on everything.

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 00:46:02 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • Charles 𝄢 H
     • Billiglarper
     • Christian Kent

     @celesteh @billiglarper @ckent

     Men athletes compete with women athletes. Especially in the weight room.

     Elite powerlifting is one of the biggest examples of "Elite men athletes respect and compete with elite women athletes, and are in awe of their accomplishments, but lay men non-athletes disrespect elite women athletes."

     Read the last example. I've literally had guys that don't even lift get really upset at me for weeks about this and camp out angrily in my mentions. The funny thing is, among elite powerlifters, none of this is even controversial.

     https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/113815934092732931

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     Charles 𝄢 H (celesteh@post.lurk.org)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 00:46:03 JST Charles 𝄢 H

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     • Billiglarper
     • Christian Kent

     @mekkaokereke @billiglarper @ckent

     Without wishing to dispute anyone's point, the men's (American) football team and the women's (soccer) football team are explicitly separated in their main activities. They share the weight room, but they're never required to collaborate with or compete with each other. Neither is taking space that seemed to more "naturally" belong to the other.

     The atmosphere in the weight room was probably quite different before Title XI (the US law that forces parity in university sports programmes) became completely normalised.