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   Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:46:53 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
   @jenna_leia.skywalker@threads.net this is about as dumb as blaming the fire on DEI
   
   If eucalyptus trees burn too much, they won't survive and aren't any kind of 'invasive threat'. If they don't burn enough they will (continue to) thrive. You can't have it both ways
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     Paultron-3030 (paultron@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:50:21 JST Paultron-3030

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     @jeffcliff @jenna_leia.skywalker@threads.net that's only true if fire isn't part of the eucalyptus life cycle. Much like many of the native species of California, they need a hot fire to break open the seeds and reproduce, rejuvenating the population
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:50:21 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     > Much like many of the native species of California, they need a hot fire to break open the seeds and reproduce, rejuvenating the population
     
     That sounds like a great tree to have around that part of california then given the tendency for fire to break out.
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     Another Linux Walt Alt (lnxw37b2@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 02:17:02 JST Another Linux Walt Alt

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     @jeffcliff @jenna_leia.skywalker@threads.net Oh, no. Not the eucalyptus tale again.
     
     Yes, there are eucalyptus trees in large public spaces like parks in Los Angeles. No, they're not common outside of cultivation. I lived in SoCal for many decades and never saw a single eucalypt outside of cultivated areas (public parks, cultivated areas of public facilities like schools).
     
     The areas burning are mostly native plants. Like the Australian eucalypts, the native trees and shrubs are low-moisture and high in oils because they live in a low-rainfall environment. The San Gabriel Mountains (Eaton Fire) and Santa Monica Mountains (Palisades Fire) are covered with native trees. I've spent lots of time in the SG mountains and studied horticulture, so I know this personally.
     
     I know this breaks the narrative about eucalyptus and colonialism, but if we're going to try to assign blame for the wildfires, we should at least do the work to find out the truth first.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 02:18:59 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @lnxw37b2 i swear someone should make a 'dumb arguments about california fire' because you can guarantee in another year or two we're going to go through all of this again
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