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   LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 14:46:47 JST LisPi
   Laptops that only have internal batteries are much less likely to work without the battery, this is obnoxious because keeping dead/outdated batteries in live computers is a fire hazard, so one can't simply be assured it's possible to keep using the computer as a pseudo desktop or discount server once its use as a laptop is over.
   
   Some of them will still work fine without a battery while plugged in, but it's no longer a reliable expectation anymore.
   
   I hate this planned obsolescence crap. At this point one legitimately has no reasonable choice other than building a luggable out of an SBC & portable monitor + USB power bank or something (unless one feels like screwing with USB->AC inverter for microatx + conventional PSU, good luck with the power constraints & finding the components in the first place).
   
   Fuck whoever thought that was smart.
   
   How did things degrade so much in the last few years?
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 14:46:45 JST iced depresso

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     @lispi314 mm people who design electronics that power through the battery even connected to line should be punished :cirno_doubt:
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 14:54:13 JST iced depresso

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     @lispi314 its prevalent in a lot of cheap electronics. anker power banks do it (they somewhat disclose this), from what i can tell almost every bluetooth speaker does it.
     
     i had one morphia power brick that did have a passthrough which is awesome and i've never seen one since.
     
     i wouldn't be surprised if some of the cheap laptops are doing something sketchy that requires the power cell be there.
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     LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 14:54:14 JST LisPi

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     • iced depresso
     @icedquinn The main devices for which this is a reasonable design are double-conversion UPSes, because the constant power-smoothing through battery & isolation from the grid is the whole point of them.
     
     If laptops want to do things like that? Then they should also have hotswappable batteries like most of those UPSes have.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 14:54:40 JST iced depresso

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     • iced depresso
     @lispi314 framework had an issue about that where something like CMOS would die with the battery even if you put the machine on mains to replace the battery