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   iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Jan-2025 23:20:07 JST iced depresso
   germans: if we wave this magic wand and declare you right wing, we get to spy on you and take your guns :blobcatmage:
   
   liberal democracy is not alright, apparently
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Jan-2025 23:43:22 JST iced depresso

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     • divVerent
     @divVerent https://www.zerohedge.com/political/germanys-gun-grab-saxony-anhalt-begins-disarming-afd-members
     
     apparently the state did their hand wavey thing where they just get to declare their political opponents as bad man so we don't have to engage in actual discourse and democracy
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     divVerent (divverent@misskey.de)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Jan-2025 23:43:23 JST divVerent

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     @icedquinn@blob.cat In Germany the guns matter less anyway as only criminals are allowed to carry them anyway. Everyone else must keep them at home.

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     divVerent (divverent@misskey.de)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Jan-2025 23:53:37 JST divVerent

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     @icedquinn@blob.cat Yes, I know. My point is, gun licenses aren't worth much in Germany to begin with. It's not like in the US where you can actually carry one.
     
     But also, that should make it harder to take it away for political reasons - and thus this is dumb.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Jan-2025 23:54:33 JST iced depresso

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     • divVerent
     @divVerent i think most of the afd people are really just wanting the islam flood to stop, and their party would probably fall to irrelevance if the state accepted this fact instead of being little despots
     
     but i guess their handlers demand the immigration, so they can't
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 00:01:07 JST iced depresso

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     @divVerent I've been down that road and what happens is somebody is disaffected and they get bullied out for having an unapproved opinion, and end up with terrible people because that's the only place they actually can live.
     
     hell i saw people on fedi last year talking about if there was a centrist option (they didn't want to call it this, but they basically described it) they would take it, but the only tribal choices was batshit insane control grid maoism or batshit insane control grid neochristianity, and there was no like
     
     "what if we just mind our fucking business guys"
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     divVerent (divverent@misskey.de)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 00:01:08 JST divVerent

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     @icedquinn@blob.cat That's the thing. There definitely are neo nazis in the AfD, and people who essentially want to sell out Germany to a dictator until it's getting annexed.
     
     But indeed, the vast majority... they just want some change, and don't see any other party as an option. And you know, I can understand that.

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