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   feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 07:46:18 JST feld
   > Elon Musk Uses Cybertruck Explosion to Show Tesla Can Remotely Unlock and Monitor Vehicles
   
   Is there a single car sold today that doesn't have the equivalent of OnStar technology embedded in it? Even if you don't pay for the service they can still track the cars and remotely lock/unlock/disable the engine.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 07:59:40 JST feld

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     @takao Ok, let's explore. What is a budget vehicle in the USA? These days it appears to be the subcompact sedans from Kia, Mitsubishi, and Nissan
     
     - Kia Forte $19,9 has Kia Connect
     - Mitsubishi Mirage G4 $17,7 has Mitsubishi Connect
     - Nissan Versa $17,1 has NissanConnect
     
     
     These all provide roughly the same services (and they copied each other on the service name too)
     
     So in conclusion: even the entry level shitbox has this hardware inside
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 07:59:41 JST :segasaturn:

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     @feld budget vehicles probably don't have crap like that yet, though I'm not talking about EVs here (not like "budget" class realistically exists in that segment anyway)
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 08:15:21 JST Phantasm

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     @feld @takao They might put it in only as an upgrade package, that might or might not be installed if the customer didn't pay for it.
     
     As an example, the 2024 Kia Forte in the LX/LXS trim does not support Kia Connect when I checked it with their availability checker. That might indicate that they don't install it by default into every vehicle and just activate it via some software update/config change. But who knows.
     
     https://owners.kia.com/us/en/about-uvo-link.html
     
     I also doubt that the remote engine disable/find car functionality isn't installed by default. It's too useful for law enforcement to not include it.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 08:19:42 JST feld

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     @phnt @takao
     
     > As an example, the 2024 Kia Forte in the LX/LXS trim does not support Kia Connect when I checked it with their availability checker.
     
     FYI the Forte is now the K4, and the 2025 K4 has it in the LX trim as shown in my screenshot.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 08:29:46 JST feld

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     @takao I found the 2025 Suzuki Swift has GPS but it looks like it's an offline Garmin implementation. I'm having trouble seeing specific builds of the car online though. It's like they don't want you to know anything about actually buying the car lol
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 08:29:47 JST :segasaturn:

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     @feld hatchbacks are more practical in the B/subcompact segment imo. Tiny little honkers like Suzuki Swift don't appear to have stuff like that, though it is computerised with '''driver assist''' bloat.
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 08:45:03 JST :segasaturn:

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     @feld I think these days you're supposed to soypog at pretty promotional pictures and listen to bullshit dealership tells you instead of making a decision based on data. I found some more info in one of the PL catalogues, there is a table on page 25. Immobiliser trash comes as a standard:
     https://suzuki.pl/pdf/auto/akcesoria/Swift2024Akcesoria.pdf
     
     I'm sure there's an English version of that PDF too but global site seems more obnoxious to navigate.
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