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   Sebastian Lasse (sl007@digitalcourage.social)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 00:27:19 JST Sebastian Lasse

   • 洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee)

   Hey @hongminhee

   currently blasting random thoughts about #ActivityPub to fedi which are important at least to me at the first workday of the shiny Year of the Fediverse.

   About
   https://community.nodebb.org/topic/51fbaabb-7f67-4021-8fdf-06109242df69/null?_=1735825467776

   Do you think this makes sense?
   Perfectly yes !!!
   It is exactly the way we use it in redaktor and I can invite you in github that you can see which relations we use.

   Would it be appropriate to put Link objects in the attachment?

   Well, it would be "appropriate" if they
   "identify a resource attached or related to an object that potentially requires special handling." or are "at least semantically similar to attachments in email." -
   it feels bad and the reason that [poor, non-conformant but] big solutions are not supporting "multiple values" feels essentially wrong. I am deeply sorry :)

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     Sebastian Lasse (sl007@digitalcourage.social)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 00:27:16 JST Sebastian Lasse

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     • 洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee)

     @hongminhee

     But I need to stress the Conformance Section https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#conformance
     We are only "conformant" if we support "the entirety" of the protocol parts.
     Cause only "the entirety" makes perfectly sense.
     And it is up to us to start it. Right Now.
     Not freezing cause of poor implementations.

     Welll, this was my 2025 wish :)

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     Sebastian Lasse (sl007@digitalcourage.social)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 00:27:18 JST Sebastian Lasse

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     • 洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee)

     @hongminhee

     Justification:
     It is against the Linked Data Principles.
     If any value in the spec. is not marked "functional" assume, there _are_ multiple values.
     It is the opposite of "Be liberal in what you expect and strict in what you send".
     It means "freezing" the fediverse.
     :)

     Let me explain it with two screenshots of the redaktor UI.
     Data here is rather fake to show the use of multiple _different_ relations.
     But any item like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1055 would have lots of relations.

     In a Profile, the URLs are shown close to the summary ("above the fold") while the "attachment" would just be the links in a box which the user has to click (similar to the "attachments" in eMail) ...
     Not shown here but would be possible.

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     bhaugen repeated this.