Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jan-2025 21:20:24 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

   Yes, #Apple has decided to opt everyone on iOS 18 in to “Enhanced Visual Search” to identify landmarks in pictures and that is a bad thing (ask me before you do something like that, Apple). But also no, this doesn’t mean that your iPhone sends all your pictures to Apple with this feature. It sends vector data around that allows a pseudonymous match so the iPhone can add metadata on landmarks. See https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/homomorphic-encryption for more technical details.

   • Embed this notice
     Patrick Seemann (nohillside@smnn.ch)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jan-2025 21:32:16 JST Patrick Seemann

     in reply to

     @jwildeboer which still means that Apple „knows“ where I‘ve been, right? Sure, they probably know anyway, but this should be opt-in (as you already said) and way better explained the article you linked.

     Also, are we sure this is not a validation exercise for their CSAM matching thing?

   • Embed this notice
     aquarius (aquarius@f.cz)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jan-2025 21:45:45 JST aquarius

     in reply to

     • Patrick Seemann

     @nohillside @jwildeboer Apple "knows" where you've been by a virtue of Find My app... kinda hard to avoid that when you have a box full of sensors (GPS among others) and 24/7 connectivity in your pocket.

   • Embed this notice
     hal (sequundi@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jan-2025 21:50:25 JST hal

     • Patrick Seemann

     @jwildeboer @nohillside (How) can I opt-out?

   • Embed this notice
     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Thursday, 02-Jan-2025 22:04:23 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

     in reply to

     Does this mean you can trust Apple? Hell, no! I disabled this “feature” the moment I first heard about it. But I will also dig a bit deeper to better understand what exactly they (claim to) are doing because that helps me in making informed choices. And sharing what I found hopefully helps you too! Too many toots and articles in my timeline reduced this to “Apple bad!1!!” without giving more details.