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   The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 22:07:29 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

   LB: I don’t have cookie consent banners on my websites because I don’t need cookies: a result of not needing to keep any creepy persistent state about visitors (and not doing it just cause everyone else does)

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     Ric (dev_ric@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 22:20:28 JST Ric

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     @sinbad same. There's literally no legitimate need for cookies beyond tracking. Sessions have been around for decades and make way more sense from every security and privacy perspective. They just don't work well for cross-site data sharing... i.e. tracking. 🙄

     There's even local storage, if data really needs storing client-side. Works the same as cookies but as RAM for JS, rather than ROM, and inaccessible by other sites.

     "Essential cookies required for functionality" is a straight up lie.

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 22:20:28 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     • Ric

     @dev_ric preach

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     Daniel Gibson (doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 22:21:00 JST Daniel Gibson

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     @sinbad
     Even if you *need* cookies, you don't need a banner - as long as you only set the cookies you actually need, for example for logins.
     They're only needed for cookies that aren't technically needed, like the hundreds of thirdparty tracking cookies that most websites want to set

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     Stefan Reinalter (molecularmusing@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 00:40:06 JST Stefan Reinalter

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     @sinbad Same here!
     Feels so good to have a website that doesn't ask for stupid "essential only" and "allow all" cookie garbage.

     When talking about this with other friends who also run a business, I'm often met with the question "but don't you want to know where your potential customers clicked, and where they come from, ..." and to that I can always say: no, in fact I don't want to know.

     I'd rather let the product speak for itself.

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 01:12:51 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     • Stefan Reinalter

     @molecularmusing A lot of the time people collect this stuff and do absolutely nothing with that information. They just collect it because they think it’s somehow useful to know and everyone else does it so it must be the industry standard. It’s nonsense, most sales and marketing is just throwing stuff at a wall and pretending you have a plan. If it doesn’t change your actions, you don’t need it. But performative nonsense is very common

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 01:21:02 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     • Stefan Reinalter

     @molecularmusing and some people are like “oh well it’s just nice to know more about our customers” - fine, ask them if you want that info, when they can choose not to share it. You don’t expect a store person to follow you around town seeing where else you’ve been just because they find it interesting

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     Daniel Gibson (doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 01:58:57 JST Daniel Gibson

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     • Stefan Reinalter

     @sinbad @molecularmusing
     also, you can still count how often each page was loaded without tracking anyone.
     sure, that's not as much information as seeing how exactly users navigate the page and how long they look at what, but at least it gives you an idea which pages might be hard to find