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    Erik van Straten (erikvanstraten@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 15:58:10 JST Erik van Straten Erik van Straten
    • Mihai Martoiu Ticu

    Changing ones mind

    Mihai Martoiu Ticu referred to https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/evolutionary-human-sciences/article/opinions-on-hardtodiscuss-topics-change-more-via-cohort-replacement/D11EC23A36D627465FDC9AA52AD049E1 when he wrote (in https://infosec.exchange/@martoiu@mastodon.social/113738185220054379):
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    Opinions change not because people can be convinced with sound rational arguments, but because those holding old opinions eventually die.
    ❞

    Maybe I'm not an average guy, but in my life I've changed my mind on multiple subjects. And I'm not ashamed of it - on the contrary. I'm a human; I don't know everything there is to know (partially because info is withheld from me, but also because of 24x7 and/or not having my curiousness triggered).

    For example, I changed my opinion about IT-matters a number of times. I like debates with multiple points of view, in particular when based on obvious facts.

    On Oct. 7 2023, my gut feeling told me that the attack by Hamas did not occur "in a vacuum". However, at the time the first association with Palestinians that would come up in my mind, was terrorism. "Of course" Jews had the right to their own state.

    I have always been too busy with ICT and infosec to dive into such topics, but now I felt the need to spend more time on learning why that attack took place.

    I've read a lot. Including some of Mihai's writings, such as https://www.mihai.nl/internationaal-recht/de-vvd-laat-zich-ringeloren-door-de-israel-lobby/ (from 2016), which provided new insights I was not aware about.

    We should not be so ashamed to change our minds based on facts we learn. Of course it is important to at least double check what you read before jumping to conclusions.

    However, i.r.t. to Gaza, the Westbank,Lebanon, Syria and Jemen, the evidence of warcrimes committed by Israeli soldiers is overwhelming, while Israeli representatives and supporters keep lying.

    Note: I'm not stating that all Arabs are good people: some are insane idiots who also commit warcrimes or other cruelties to, often called, "inncocent people" (it depends, but the younger a child, the more innocent it is).

    Anyway, my govermnent treats Israel as an ally that needs our unconditional support. That is why I feel the need to raise my voice - more than i.r.t. other unimaginable suffering (such as in Sudan, Afghanistan, Ukraine etc).

    Most Israeli's do not want to integrate with Arabs; they want them to be silent slaves, migrate to other countries or die. And their desired map is still incomplete.

    If Israel *really* is the most democratic country in the Middle East (like, among others, Ronald Plasterk argues, see https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113702504098264750), then the *majority* of Jews are inhumane and/or look away from the truth (in contrast to many Russian citizens, Israeli's *have* access to less biased media - such as Haaretz and foreign news agencies).

    If a majority of Jews in Israel hates (oppresses, discriminates, rapes, tortures, kills) Arabs, then, IMO, not a single Jew has the right to occupy land in the Middle East.

    And I may change my mind even further.

    @martoiu
    #DefinitionOfAntisemitism #Gaza #GazaGenocide #Westbank #Lebanon #Syria #Jemen #Warcrimes

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      Mihai Martoiu Ticu (@martoiu@mastodon.social)
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      Opinions change not because people can be convinced with sound rational arguments, but because those holding old opinions eventually die. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/evolutionary-human-sciences/article/opinions-on-hardtodiscuss-topics-change-more-via-cohort-replacement/D11EC23A36D627465FDC9AA52AD049E1
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      De VVD laat zich ringeloren door de Israël-lobby
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      Erik van Straten (@ErikvanStraten@infosec.exchange)
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      Attached: 1 image Ronald Plasterk 👎 In https://mastodon.social/@martoiu/113701911836499588 schreef Mihai Martoiu Ticu: ❝ Waarom denk je dat Ronald Plasterk Oxfam Novib wil vernietigen? Hij wil genocide plegen. ❞ Ik kon mij dat niet voorstellen, maar helaas is Ronald Plasterk de zoveelste die (in elk geval voor mij) vreselijk door de mand valt. Enkele regels tekst uit zijn column van 19 december (https://www.telegraaf.nl/watuzegt/364505425/minister-reinette-klever-moet-de-subsidie-aan-oxfam-novib-stoppen, alt: https://archive.is/hzMbw): ❝ Nooit hoor je hem [directeur Michiel Servaes van Oxfam Novib] over de gijzelaars die Hamas nu al meer dan vierhonderd dagen vasthoudt of over het extreme sadisme van de Hamas-aanval. [...] Vervolgens spande Oxfam Novib een duur proces aan tegen de Nederlandse overheid om Israël te boycotten, een proces dat inmiddels verloren is. En tenslotte lanceerde het de pompeuze ’Niet in mijn naam’-campagne [...]. Een campagne die honderd procent anti-Israël is, het enige democratische land in de regio, en een campagne die aanleunt tegen antisemitisme. [...] Het recente proces richtte zich tegen het leveren van F-35-vliegtuigen aan Israël, met het argument dat Israël daarmee genocide en oorlogsmisdaden begaat. Ook los van de inhoudelijke vraag hoe Israël zich anders zou moeten verdedigen (om herhaling te voorkomen van de 7 oktober-aanslag) tegen Hamas, dat de militaire doelen bewust onderbrengt bij burgerdoelen, heeft dit niets te maken met het bieden van ontwikkelingshulp. ❞ Het aanvullende moddergooien naar Michiel Servaes en Oxfam Novib kan op waarheid gebaseerd zijn, maar die directeur en zijn organisatie proberen in elk geval *iets* tegen het onmenselijke geweld in het Midden-Oosten te doen. Ik sta nog steeds voor 100% achter het ondertekenen van de petitie #NietInMijnNaam. Mijn advies aan Ronald Plasterk: doe je oogkleppen af in plaats van je medeplichtig te maken aan genocide. Lees bijvoorbeeld wat Philippe Lazzarini gisteren schreef (https://x.com/UNLazzarini/status/1870820247617368159) of kijk en luister naar Francesca Albanese in https://youtube.com/watch?v=d905WU2L1no (van 20 december). En/of lees in Haaretz (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-12-18/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-expose-arbitrary-killings-and-rampant-lawlessness-in-gazas-netzarim-corridor/00000193-da7f-de86-a9f3-fefff2e50000, alt: https://archive.is/IbH0B) over het extreme sadisme van IOF-soldaten. Of lees bijvoorbeeld in https://www.timesofisrael.com/btselem-alleges-israeli-policy-of-abuse-torture-of-palestinian-prisoners/ hoe Israël omgaat met Palestijnen (waaronder artsen en andere hulpverleners) die vaak veel langer dan 400 dagen worden gegijzeld (zonder enige vorm van proces, "administrative detention"), en worden gemarteld, verkracht en soms vermoord. @martoiu@mastodon.social Edit 17:09: foto als "gevoelig" gemarkeerd" n.a.v. https://mastodon.nl/@ovb69/113702919121137002. #Gaza #GazaGenocide #Westbank #Libanon #Syrie #RonaldPlasterk

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