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   sampo (sampo@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 17:48:38 JST sampo
   I'm very disappointed that the EU didn't pick a 2 pin IEC M12 connector for the standard charging port. this one is rated for 250VDC/4A which should make for some fast charging
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 17:48:55 JST lainy

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     @sampo it would have been hilarious if they had mandated micro usb
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 17:59:30 JST lainy

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     @sampo literally everybody except apple was already using usb-c, and apple users already had the freedom to simply buy one of the twenty trillion android devices instead, or buy a 1 euro adapter.
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     sampo (sampo@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 17:59:31 JST sampo

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     @lain I wonder if the best way to guide standardization is to put it into law at all
     
     I also found out that this directive is the reason why phones don't come with a charger anymore which I'm kind of buttmad about, there's so many uses for those things and I always have too few
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 18:01:38 JST kaia

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     • lainy
     @lain @sampo one of the only reliable thunderbolt c-to-c cables is an expensive Apple one, while the others I have all are not fully thunderbolt chinesium. let the EU fix that next :blobcatgoogly:
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 18:12:05 JST Phantasm

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     • lainy
     @sampo @lain Almost everybody used usb-c by that point where it made sense. This just pushed it into areas nobody really cared about like cameras. Even most laptops, excluding gaming ones, had the ability to charge with usb-c.
     
     I think that standardization by law does not make sense in almost every case. Unless there are a few companies with a majority in the market that mostly profit from them being completely incompatible ("smart" garage openers in some countries for example).
     Ideally you gather multiple companies together and make some standard that is actually better than the current one.
     
     A side effect of the EU directive is also that it somewhat forced USB PD to standardize insane levels of wattage for such a connector. 48V/5A (240W) is stupid for such a small connector with many pins unrelated to power.
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     sampo (sampo@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 18:24:24 JST sampo

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     @kaia @lain I have one weird chinese cable that feels very cheap, like it's a little sticky to the touch and stuff, but thunderbolt works no matter which way I plug it in. all the other ones I've got have some issues, including the one that came with my thinkpad dock.
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