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   Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 02:23:15 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

   So. TL;DR on #Chatcontrol in the council today. No vote. So 2022/0155(COD) stays in Zombie mode and is pushed to th incoming council presidency of Poland. It remains to be seen if they bring it up again in the first 6 months of 2025. In the council the countries that would vote at leat ABSTAIN declared why. That is all that happened. The video is at https://video.consilium.europa.eu/event/en/27763 (no English sound until 12:29 for whatever reason)

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 02:34:46 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     The opposing countries more or less agreed: Fighting child abuse is important and needed. But the proposed detection regime is deemed to violate fundamental rights in unacceptable ways. So either that is solved in an acceptable way or the whole thing stays Zombie (and should be buried, IMHO).

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     Clemens (neverpanic@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 02:35:55 JST Clemens

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     @jwildeboer Can a presidency that wants to kill the proposal force a vote?

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 02:49:05 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

     Question time at press conference. So far only questions on border/syria topics.

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 03:08:07 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     Press conference done. So that was it. On my way to a beer. #Chatcontrol stays zombie. It deserves to be buried. Let's hope Poland does exactly that in the next 6 months. Enjoy your evening/day and thank you all for dealing with my slightly excessive posting on this topic :)

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     Clemens (neverpanic@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 03:30:57 JST Clemens

     @jwildeboer so in other words, all the presidencies since that was brought up didn't have the guts or will to actually kill it.

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     Clemens (neverpanic@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 03:57:17 JST Clemens

     @jwildeboer If only there was a recent case in a large western country where lawful interception interfaces spectacularly backfired and were abused by Chinese hackers – maybe we could learn something from such a case. But, alas, here we are.