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   Alexis Simon (alxsim@ecoevo.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 20:45:11 JST Alexis Simon

   • SMBE
   • ESEB
   • American Naturalist
   • sse_evolution
   • SSB
   • British Ecological Society

   I am launching a broad call for finding an ecology and/or evolution society that could take ecoevo.social under its wings.
   While I am very happy to continue managing the technical and community aspect of this server, I do not have the bandwidth to start looking into taxes and non-profit creation issues.
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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 20:48:14 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     @alxsim Great that you're thinking about those things!

     On "but they take percentages and I'd find it much more nicer for a society to give a hand", administrative overhead still exists with any fiscal hosts, it may just become more hidden. If unstated expectations differ, there may be surprising results down the road (such as a decision to shut down the service if perceived costs raise above perceived benefits).

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     Alexis Simon (alxsim@ecoevo.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 20:48:15 JST Alexis Simon

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     Other option: use a generic fiscal host such as provided by opencollective but they take percentages and I'd find it much more nicer for a society to give a hand

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     Alexis Simon (alxsim@ecoevo.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 20:48:16 JST Alexis Simon

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     • SMBE
     • ESEB
     • American Naturalist
     • sse_evolution
     • SSB
     • British Ecological Society

     Other less ideal options:
     - Find a group of people that are ready to tackle establishing a non-profit for ecoevo.social.
     - Find a benevolent person that would accept taking the fiscal host responsibility.
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     Alexis Simon (alxsim@ecoevo.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 20:48:17 JST Alexis Simon

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     • SMBE
     • ESEB
     • American Naturalist
     • sse_evolution
     • SSB
     • British Ecological Society

     The best course of action would be that an established society becomes the fiscal host for the server (meaning receiving donations and paying the bills with those donations, not complex when you're already a non-profit).
     So please, if you are or know people in one of the many societies that are established on and using ecoevo.social, help me make a case for it!
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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 21:07:06 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     @alxsim There might be some useful examples (or not) in my list https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediparty/wiki/Collectively-owned-instances .

     Looking at biology journals in DOAJ, I don't see many open-membership associations... Perhaps
     * https://doaj.org/toc/2469-0228
     * https://doaj.org/toc/2427-6111
     * https://doaj.org/toc/2179-975X
     * https://doaj.org/toc/1667-782X

     of which only https://www.asaeargentina.com.ar/como-asociarse seems to have a procedure for membership from outside their host country.

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 23:20:44 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     @alxsim Counterpoint: the larger the society, the larger their inefficiencies and administrative costs. Handling 1500 $ in donations can easily cost them more than 1500 $. :)

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     Alexis Simon (alxsim@ecoevo.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 23:20:45 JST Alexis Simon

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     • Noam Ross

     @noamross I really get that, but 15% of 1500$/year seems like peanuts for a large society. I would see that as their financial contribution. Initially, I had hoped that societies using this server to advertise their journals and papers would contribute one way or the other, but this hasn't materialized yet.

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     Noam Ross (noamross@ecoevo.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 23:20:46 JST Noam Ross

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     @alxsim Though I second the notion that some overhead is inevitable. Asking a nonprofit or society to take this on is basically asking them to absorb that. 15% is pretty standard.

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     Noam Ross (noamross@ecoevo.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 23:20:47 JST Noam Ross

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     • SORTEE

     @alxsim Perhaps @sortee?