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   CedarTea (cedartea@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 08:06:14 JST CedarTea

   The history of the American (and many other countries') left is much more easily understood if you view FDR not as your representative, but as the peace negotiator for your enemy. The giveaway is right in the name, "New Deal". You don't make a deal with yourself.

   This mischaracterization leads to a huge strategic misstep, where leftists think they can simply vote themselves another deal. A deal with who? And with what leverage?

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     CedarTea (cedartea@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 08:06:37 JST CedarTea

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     Your enemy doesn't sue for peace when they're winning. When they hold all the strategic objectives. That's when they push for unconditional surrender, not offer favourable peace concessions.

     You can't just skip ahead to the peace deal because you think it would be better. Your enemy doesn't care what's better for you, and no amount of clever arguments and well-assembled slide decks is going to change that. Nor is politely asking for a different negotiator.

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     CedarTea (cedartea@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 08:06:52 JST CedarTea

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     "We need a new FDR. He was such a great man who helped us out so much!"

     You piss on your ancestors' legacy with statements like this. You're selling your great grandparents and yourselves short. Recognize what they fought for and how, and pick up the torch. You can do it just like they did. Better even. But you've gotta believe you can win instead of waiting around to be saved... by a politician of all people.