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   suvi (nasu@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 04:33:34 JST suvi

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   @Inginsub matrix is the go-to example of a standard the satisfies no-one

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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 04:33:34 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @nasu @Inginsub ActivityPub
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     👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing) (adiz@wl0.9ch.nl)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 04:36:03 JST 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

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     @nasu XMPP is superior in almost every way and I'm not sure why it never truly caught on or never found resurgence whilst, meanwhile, we get dumpster-fires like Matrix. @Inginsub

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     Tadano (tadano@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 04:44:01 JST Tadano

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     @adiz @Inginsub @nasu XMPP has literally no good desktop clients
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     👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing) (adiz@wl0.9ch.nl)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 04:45:47 JST 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

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     • Tadano

     @Tadano Dino and Gajim are both better than the experience I get from Element. @Inginsub @nasu

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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 04:49:32 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     • 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)
     @adiz @Tadano @nasu gajim generally works, except when it breaks and stops working, but dino won't even let me turn off notification sounds. gajim also doxes your time zone by default
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     Tadano (tadano@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 04:49:36 JST Tadano

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     @adiz @Inginsub @nasu And yet both manage to suck and not support the VoIP or videocall protocols of XMPP
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     👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing) (adiz@wl0.9ch.nl)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 04:51:00 JST 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

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     @Tadano I'm almost certain I've done VOIP over one of them, probably Gajim. I've never gotten Element to reliably provide either, so it's kinda a moot point. Everyone I know on Matrix just uses a dedicated Jitsi server because integration with Element is such a clusterfuck and never seems to reliably work in that regard. @Inginsub @nasu

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