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   The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 23:25:26 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

   Refined my camera "occlusion cutout" shader a bit more, happier with the results now. This is surprisingly difficult to do well, there are all sorts of edge cases for every technique. I use an approximation of a projected capsule using screen space and depth, with some noise to make the edges more interesting #indiegame #unrealengine

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     Jeremiah Fieldhaven (jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 23:30:48 JST Jeremiah Fieldhaven

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     @sinbad That looks great!

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     Leonard Ritter (lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 00:03:33 JST Leonard Ritter

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     @sinbad nice.

     some nintendo games do this on an object-level basis (simple dither-based transparency) to avoid the cases where they look hollow, which is also sometimes evident in your demo.

     if you wanted to avoid the hollowing-issue completely you'd have to lead your "cone" exactly parallel along the ray lines... but idk if that wouldn't look too flat... some dithering at the edges could be used to make that cone smooth out more...

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 00:22:22 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     • Leonard Ritter

     @lritter Yeah I'm ok with the hollowing, it looks OK I think. Object-based dithering limits you to smaller objects than we need

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 00:53:46 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

     • Parrot (Jeff)

     @psychicparrot42 Thanks! It's powered by a writhing sackful of hacks that I'm not sure is safe to unleash on anyone else 😬

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 02:06:34 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     Although in our lobby where it's all hand designed meshes, I'm using the cutout to eliminate occlusions, in the game itself I'm not doing that because it's a mining game, and you need to see all the walls you can mine! So I have a "behind geometry" silhouette for that. We may still use the cutout for other kinds of non-mineable / decorative geometry, they can work together

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 02:15:27 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     And of course everyone gets their own silhouette colour! This is derived from chosen player skins (4 players but 6 colour variants to choose from with each skin)

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     simonoliver (simonoliver@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 02:15:45 JST simonoliver

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     @sinbad looks amazing! 🤩

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     Calicoday :gamedev: (calicoday@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 02:47:01 JST Calicoday :gamedev:

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     @sinbad Love this, both the occlusion cutout and the behind geometry outline.

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 03:16:41 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     Here's an example of both occlusion effects working together - the outer wall is cut out using one effect, and the occluded part of the character is highlighted in silhouette with the other. This way we can choose what to chop out of the way and what to leave in but still let the player know where they are.

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 03:22:42 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     (You can also tell objects not to generate this outline when in front of characters, eg small objects that would produce weird effects passing in front quickly or something)

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:15:20 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     I've refined my silhouetting a bit more, it was a bit "busy" to have it on for all characters (and special objects) all the time when they were behind walls, so instead it now does a slightly subtler version for *only* the local player character when they're behind geometry. There is also a "ping" button, which highlights everything important in a much less subtle outlined silhouette (used for locating stuff)