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   chris martens (chrisamaphone@hci.social)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 12:59:51 JST chris martens

   programming language implementations aren't tools, they're materials. evaluating them like tools doesn't make any sense

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     chris martens (chrisamaphone@hci.social)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 12:59:50 JST chris martens

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     trying to see if writing that as a toot will dissolve my urge to write an extended abstract about it

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     Life is Tetris (tetrislife@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 18:39:53 JST Life is Tetris

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     @chrisamaphone spot on, but ... bog-standard devs want tools, they don't seem to mind using materials as crude tools. They'd probably happier with 4GL or the like, but they are stuck with libraries and frameworks?

     I think only a minority of devs want materials, and there probably is enough of that in #Lisp or #Smalltalk or #Prolog or #Forth alone!