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   Jason Scott (textfiles@mastodon.archive.org)'s status on Sunday, 01-Dec-2024 23:57:57 JST Jason Scott

   MIT has a set of books labelled "Open Access" but it's a little clunky to find them on the MIT Press site, and so I've gone ahead and mirrored 400+ of them here:

   https://archive.org/details/mit_press_open_access

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     Skadi (skadi@bolha.us)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 07:52:43 JST Skadi

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     @textfiles niiice, thanks! :)

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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 09:10:05 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     thanks!
     
     is the link right? I'm just getting a blank page
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     Jason Scott (textfiles@mastodon.archive.org)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 10:47:36 JST Jason Scott

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     • Alexandre Oliva

     @lxo working here

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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 11:56:41 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     oh, I see, the page is javascrippled :-(
     
     did it really need to require a browser with javascript enabled with permission to run arbitrary code in it to show anything whatsoever, without any graceful degradation? that's so inaccessible, and it makes it unusable to me and others like me :-(
     
     hopefully that can be improved
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     Jason Scott (textfiles@mastodon.archive.org)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 12:42:40 JST Jason Scott

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     • Alexandre Oliva

     @lxo technically, all websites allow the execution of arbitrary code and a browser. Anyway, there is a command line interface to the archive if you want to use it. It's how I do 99% of my work.

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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 15:19:53 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     there are accessible browsers that don't support javascript, and there are various sound reasons to not want arbitrary javascript to run on one's computer, for freedom, security, ecology and whatnot. good engineering and w3c standards recommend graceful degradation in these cases. but really, was there strong reason to mandate javascript for that page? that seems surprising and unlikely to me.
     
     you got me interested in the cli, I'd never heard of that. thanks, I've read the docs at https://archive.org/developers/internetarchive/cli.html and installed the program from the Trisquel repo, but I can't see how to use it to find out what's available from that web page that I can't see. any more specific pointers you'd be willing to share?
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     Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 17:21:29 JST Yuchen Pei

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     • Alexandre Oliva

     @lxo IA web client does try to fall back to simpler version. When executing wget -O- 2>/dev/null https://archive.org/details/mit_press_open_access the output contains the following, among other things:

     <h2>Redirecting you to a lite version of archive.org...</h2></div><meta http-equiv="refresh" data-owner="nginx" content="0; url=/details/mit_press_open_access?noscript=true"></noscript>

     However, the redirect link https://archive.org/details/mit_press_open_access?noscript=true returns 404. This looks like a bug or server config error @textfiles

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     Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 18:09:43 JST Yuchen Pei

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     • Alexandre Oliva
     @lxo
     > I've read the docs at https://archive.org/developers/internetarchive/cli.html and installed the program from the Trisquel repo, but I can't see how to use it to find out what's available from that web page that I can't see.
     
     Start by listing items in the collection
     
     ```
     $ ia search 'collection:mit_press_open_access'
     {"identifier": "mit_press_book_9780262255516"}
     {"identifier": "mit_press_book_9780262255813"}
     {"identifier": "mit_press_book_9780262255998"}
     ...
     ```
     
     To inspect an item:
     
     ```
     $ ia metadata mit_press_book_9780262255516 | jq .metadata
     ```
     
     To list files of the item:
     
     ```
     $ ia ls mit_press_book_9780262255516
     __ia_thumb.jpg
     mit_press_book_9780262255516.pdf
     mit_press_book_9780262255516_archive.torrent
     mit_press_book_9780262255516_chocr.html.gz
     mit_press_book_9780262255516_djvu.txt
     mit_press_book_9780262255516_djvu.xml
     ...
     ```
     
     To download the pdf:
     
     ```
     $ ia download mit_press_book_9780262255516 mit_press_book_9780262255516.pdf
     ```
     
     Sounds like it wouldn't be hard to write an internet archive browser in emacs.
     
     @textfiles
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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 15:01:50 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     • Yuchen Pei
     thank you!
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     njsg (njsg@social.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 18:38:12 JST njsg

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     • Alexandre Oliva

     @textfiles @lxo It used to be not very easy to access files at archive.org w/o JS before, but it'd work. In-browser viewing required JS, but it would load a page with at least links to browse all files, and IIRC that provided direct links (perhaps with a redirect in the middle, but something one could feed e.g. wget).

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     njsg (njsg@social.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 18:38:47 JST njsg

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     • Alexandre Oliva

     @textfiles @lxo
     But now I'm getting the redirect to "a lite version" as soon as I follow the link to the description page. This redirect, in my experience, has never worked over the years, but wasn't on this part of archive.org, and now it redirects to a 404 message.

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