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   screwlisp (screwtape@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 05:55:13 JST screwlisp

   • Shizamura :szhah:

   @shizamura if you want to hang out live for Wednesday's lispy gopher climate (000UTC Wednesday), I came up with some topics I perceive you to have worked extensively on in your https://sarilho.net/en/ we could wander around together. We normally hang out in Paradise Sushi in https://lambda.moo.mud.org/ , but we could have a jitsi-call on top of that.
   Recently, I added my new MUD, Object Oriented DSL to my lisp images (ie multiplayer text based game world building elements).
   In your comic: 1/2

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     @shizamura
     you have a wide variety of what I see as different player derived classes (ontologically). Zombies, alien-possessed, alien-inhabited-zombie, magic users, technologists, politicians, soldiers, civilians.
     Now in my lisp image, I wanted to "run game scripts" basically. So I made a new player class, which could run "in-game" scripts, worked great.
     But I was jealous of how productive they were, so I pushed them to my own parents-list. Now I too can run scripts.
     But there are onto

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     @shizamura logical problems. Sometimes I treat the player class (called repeatedly-eval-qt) as though it's a different person, but then I also made them into one of my own parents, so I'm a derivative of them. In MOO terms, I guess they are what is called a puppet class (like Emily, from last week).

     But it also seems like repeatedly-eval-qt is a "kind of player" rather than a particular player, but they sometimes operate as a particular player. I'm trying to sort these ideas out. 3/2

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     • DougMerritt (log😅 = 💧log😄)

     @dougmerritt Fun story about Newt. Kind of presaging Basshunter's Boten Anna song.

     I dunno if you ran into Minix yet in Lambda, but they pointed me to https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10458-006-0005-z (Cobot, the self-programming community robot) as well. When you see people who have installed the boogie feature in their player class, they probably got it from Minix.

     @shizamura has many characters who have or have installed new or otherwise different features that change what they are socially and cognitively.

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     DougMerritt (log😅 = 💧log😄) (dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 09:23:44 JST DougMerritt (log😅 = 💧log😄)

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     @screwtape @shizamura
     On the social mud I used to "live" on, DragonMud (there was also an unrelated RPG game DragonMud), "wizards" had limited admin privileges and "gods" had unlimited admin privileges. (I was a wizard)

     This allowed the mud owner to recruit lots of help -- a small number of gods and maybe a dozen wizards.

     As an aside, there was an Eliza-style bot, "Newt", mostly for the fun of the owner having a bot wandering around, but also it responded to HELP commands.

     There's a certain kind of person that liked to harass the bot, while us regulars were protective of him. They would eventually get a big surprise when the bot turned out to be a god who kicked them off the mud given sufficient harassment, and sometimes even perma-ban them. This was quite funny but also quite effective.

     screwlisp repeated this.
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     @shizamura
     Yeah sorry, I read your comic, but then I'm talking about niche Good Old Fashioned AI things. You know how in O Sarilho, the sorta internet they connect to is a person or people. This idea was quite common in research programming, programs being something like long-lived game NPCs.
     In the shared-text-adventure-but-it's-actually-real-life LambdaMOO, these NPCs are called puppets. I want to abduct your science fantasy vibes into my real life lisp programming.
     @dougmerritt

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     Shizamura :szhah: (shizamura@ciberlandia.pt)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 10:35:43 JST Shizamura :szhah:

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     @screwtape @dougmerritt this all sounds extremely interesting but I'm here with an outsider perspective as i am unfamiliar with the tools and technologies. But I wanna SEE

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     @shizamura
     I'll make some videos of hanging out in lambda and my own lisp image stuff. Though the real trick is to find a terminal and type
     telnet lambda.moo.mud.org 80
     co guest

     I'm interested in hearing about your scifi world people stroke aliens. I just volunteered a bit too much real life context.
     @dougmerritt

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     • DougMerritt (log😅 = 💧log😄)

     @dougmerritt
     @shizamura authors https://sarilho.net/en/ , a comic about a visitor-style alien's experience in this scifi sorta-Europe on-and-off war that's happening.
     As you know, I've been working on including elements of MOOing into my lisp development images, such as player classes, and players that are MOO-style-puppets whom I think resemble some of Shizamura's characters.
     So I am trying to get them on a jitsi call during the next show or something, but I sound quite crazy, so.

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     DougMerritt (log😅 = 💧log😄) (dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 10:45:27 JST DougMerritt (log😅 = 💧log😄)

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     @screwtape @shizamura

     Yeah me too, although mind you, I'm coming in on the middle of this and I don't know what you two have been talking about.

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     • DougMerritt (log😅 = 💧log😄)

     @prahou back me up here ;p

     @dougmerritt @shizamura