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   Scott Feeney (graue@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 09:21:12 JST Scott Feeney

   Although the fediverse is in no way scraping-proof, if someone did this so blatantly here they would be widely shunned, defederated, and blocked. The Bluesky spokesperson only offers a milquetoast statement about maybe letting you opt out in the future, suggesting they think this is OK. Point in fedi's favor.

   https://www.404media.co/someone-made-a-dataset-of-one-million-bluesky-posts-for-machine-learning-research/

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 18:14:47 JST pettter

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     • The Nexus of Privacy

     @thenexusofprivacy @graue > Neither Bluesky or Mastodon has anything in their terms of service that prohibits this.

     This is not accurate. Many many instances have ToS that prohibit scraping, even if mastodon.social doesn't (I haven't checked).

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     The Nexus of Privacy (thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 18:14:48 JST The Nexus of Privacy

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     @graue it's interesting, I saw it as a very fedi-like dynamic in general: a swift response to a non-consensual scraper (even though the architecture does nothing to prevent scraping and there aren't currently any legal protections in place) and the person behind it swiftly backing down.

     Also, I'm curious: why do you see this as a plus for fedi? Right now to me they seem roughly equivialent. Neither Bluesky or Mastodon has anything in their terms of service that prohibits this.

     And if Bluesky does introduce the user control they're talking about, that would put them ahead of Mastodon -- which right now only has options for

     • Your public posts and profile may be featured or recommended in various areas of Mastodon and your profile may be suggested to other users.

     • Your public posts may appear in search results on Mastodo

     • Your profile page may appear in search results on Google, Bing, and others.

     None of which cover this case.

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 18:16:56 JST pettter

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     • The Nexus of Privacy

     @thenexusofprivacy @graue And to be clear, manually checking which instances (and users) allow and prevent scraping is such a labour intensive process as to essentially make scraping the fediverse impractical for any large-scale endeavour.