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   AnarchoNinaWrites (anarchoninawrites@jorts.horse)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 04:21:45 JST AnarchoNinaWrites

   • Doug Bostrom

   @Doug_Bostrom I mean this presumes that how capitalism works is the making and selling of products to voluntary buyers, but that's no longer how it does work. Capitalists own our govts and have reshaped our society in such a way as to make supplying them with wealth largely involuntary. Public funds subsidize capitalist activity, whole cities are built to preclude the possibility of opting out of cars, you can't chose not to fund the military, or oil companies, or internet conglomerates anymore.

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     AnarchoNinaWrites (anarchoninawrites@jorts.horse)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 04:23:44 JST AnarchoNinaWrites

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     • Doug Bostrom

     @Doug_Bostrom So yeah, it is a community response - and that response is overthrowing the capitalist order.

     But I don't think that was really what you meant; it sounds like you're talking about mass boycotts from a perspective that doesn't understand how ingrained supporting capitalism is from a top down perspective in our society, or that whole wars are and will be fought over forcing you to comply with capitalist activity and provide capitalists with money.

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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 12:14:24 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     making and selling of products to voluntary buyers
     
     

     ... and that's not even capitalism, that's just commerce, and it predates capitalism by millenia. but it's a very common and widespread misconception, that I suppose was promoted to try to normalize capitalism.
     
     traditional commerce doesn't require reinvestment for exponential growth, nor exploitation of workers. these two are the key elements introduced with capitalism that make it fundamentally unsustainable and unjust, respectively.
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