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   Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 23:28:19 JST Bread up, Bro
   but that's what they got! Strange, huh?
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     Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 23:42:04 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.

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     Talk is cheap. It's great that these ideas and rhetoric are getting put out in front of a wider audience, but vance isn't some pseudonymous poster. He *could* actually do things, at least in theory.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 23:44:17 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
     @doctorsex I think the idea of "this isn't what these guys wanted" is important, because if you want to be a populist, that matters. Up until recently, progressives have been able to both pretend they are populist, but then do what the people *don't* want for like 50 years by just lying.
     
     But it's important to keep in mind that both those that did the fighting and dying didn't want it - but that's what they got -- because otherwise you won't understand that "the system" is the problem, and it's not a few polices you need to tweak.
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     Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 23:47:42 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.

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     Yeah, good rhetoric, but again, politics is transactional. People didn't vote for trump/vance to do stuff they could do without title or office (rhetoric, posting). If they don't do anything, they're not holding up their end of the transaction.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 23:49:11 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
     @doctorsex yes. I think pretending politics isn't transactional is the lie that conservatives love maybe the most.
     
     And perhaps in a high enough trust society it isn't. But we've had corrupt cities for over 100 years now, and it's only getting worse.