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lilli (lilli@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:34:10 JST 
lilli
@VeganMemes this fact was what made me become vegan when i was vegetarian and really didn't want to be vegan. it made not eating flesh bc it kills the animal but being fime with animal products seem completely inconsistent - Hyolobrika likes this.
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georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:34:09 JST 
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@lilli @VeganMemes it's the same with male baby cows made into veal. I was vegan for two years but I recently started eating fish again. very soon I'll go back to being vegan though flesh is kinda overrated. Hyolobrika likes this. -
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lilli (lilli@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:47:03 JST
lilli
@georgia @VeganMemes i didn't realize male milk calves were used for veal, but it was obvious once i realized i couldn't keep eating eggs that milk wasn't going to be acceptable to me either by those standards georgia likes this. -
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Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:48:33 JST 
Hyolobrika
@georgia @lilli @VeganMemes I wish I didn't crave meat. -
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georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:49:45 JST
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@Hyolobrika @lilli @VeganMemes I crave broccoli :> Hyolobrika likes this. -
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Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:49:59 JST
Hyolobrika
@lilli @VeganMemes Is this a risk with all eggs or just some? I live in the UK.
It's definitely not a risk with roadside eggs that probably come from chickens that roam people's backyards. -
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Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:50:31 JST
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@georgia @lilli @VeganMemes Broccoli is yum -
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georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:52:54 JST
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@Hyolobrika @lilli @VeganMemes theres a technology that sexes chicks while still in the egg which is more ethical than what farmers normally do which is throw them off a moving vehicle or put them in a grinder or drown them but very few companies use this technology -
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Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:53:59 JST
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@lilli @georgia @VeganMemes Oh great does this mean I'm gonna have to stop drinking milk now. I love milk. -
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lilli (lilli@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:56:04 JST
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@Hyolobrika @VeganMemes it's pretty much universal. roosters and hens have a 50/50 split and having that many roosters is not useful to nearly all farmers. it would have to be a very inefficient farm which cares for its roosters georgia likes this. -
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lilli (lilli@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:58:26 JST
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@Hyolobrika @georgia @VeganMemes what you "have" to do is just what your conscience guides you to do. what i would encourage is not to think of it in totalizing terms. just take a step toward what you suspect doing better means. it's all steps georgia and Hyolobrika like this. -
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Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 09:58:29 JST
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@lilli @VeganMemes Maybe I'll visit some of the egg (and milk if there are any) places near me and see what's going on.
I will say though that my family used to keep chickens for eggs while I was growing up and when we got a rooster we treated him well.georgia likes this. -
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Hotwheels sisyphus (hotwheels@hellspawn.gay)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 10:04:08 JST 
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@Hyolobrika @georgia @lilli @VeganMemes plant-based milks aren't hard to use and there are multiple kinds. the biggest problem I've had with avoiding dairy (in my experience) is that it's unnecessarily added to so many things because the dairy industry holds too much power georgia likes this. -
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georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 10:09:35 JST
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@lilli @hotwheels @Hyolobrika @VeganMemes yeah a lot of things have whey in them and pills have lactose -
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lilli (lilli@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 10:09:36 JST
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@hotwheels @georgia @Hyolobrika @VeganMemes that really is the most annoying part. i had about a year where i had a "no dairy products except i'm not checking those stupid ingredient lists for random trace milks" phase before i cut it out completely -
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Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 10:18:53 JST
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@hotwheels @georgia @lilli @VeganMemes Plant milks taste disgusting in most drinks where milk is put. -
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Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:57:03 JST 
Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
@georgia @Hyolobrika @lilli @VeganMemes
The EU actually outlawed the killing of male chicks, but companies diverted to other shady business of course.
There was a good German documentary about it, I think on ZDF.
Basically they ship them to Poland, where they're raised in terrible conditions, then they're slaughtered and the meat shipped to somewhere in Africa. I forgot which country, but may be Ghana. May be multiple different countries...
They have less meat than the ridiculous meat chickens our modern industry breeds, but they can outcompete the local chickens in the African countries they're shipped to, so they put the chicken farmers there out of business.Hyolobrika likes this.
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