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   Drew DeVault (drewdevault@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 20:10:19 JST Drew DeVault

   So a lot of breath has been used up on how federated or distributed or open BlueSky is or is not (the answer is, to the best of my understanding, "somewhat"). But I wonder: how does BlueSky fare if we evaluate it in terms of being willing to compromise to meet people where they are?

   That's not to say being willing to *capitulate* to meet people where they are, I'm not about to hop on Discord. But *compromise*? Maybe.

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     Andrey (flpvsk@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 20:10:18 JST Andrey

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     @drewdevault the biggest red flag for me personally is venture capital. There are countless projects that started as affordable or open source and useful / fun and gradually closed down, became worse or got captured and are now sold at a high price.

     Redis of course, Eagle & Fusion, the new 3d printer from Prusa comes to mind as well.

     VC will find a way to get the money back if the project is successful. With or without the original team and their good intentions.

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     Drew DeVault (drewdevault@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 20:10:19 JST Drew DeVault

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     They are mostly open source and promise to become moreso and they have kept their promises so far. They have a standard and their model is flawed but based on a genuinely open, federated protocol. I have some qualms about the privacy afforded by their model but that's neither here nor there in terms of open source strategy.

     Is it strategic for us, the open source community, to say "this is good enough" to hop onto this platform and gain access to this growing audience of, frankly, normies?

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     Drew DeVault (drewdevault@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 20:10:19 JST Drew DeVault

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     This is inviting a discussion, not making a point. I'm not sure about the answer myself.

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     Willow (stacyharper@soc.punktrash.club)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 21:10:11 JST Willow

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     @drewdevault I think we should stop dreaming about a potential unique protocol, to connect everyone, and that fit everyone needs. Their protocol seems easy enough to bridge to most of the other social networks (maybe even all of them). And their company seems open to this idea. Maybe it is enough to me?
     
     But we need better bridges. Atm the existing solutions are not trusteable. If I connect to a bridge, I have no guarantee it will do its job, and ask my permission to share my posts to account that ask for them. I want for the bridges to reproduce the safeties we got here. Ask my permission for every handle that wants to "follow" me. And forward my posts for those handles, and uniquely those.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 21:17:58 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Willow
     @stacyharper @drewdevault Well I think current fedi software could maybe try to somewhat integrate with ATProto.
     
     At least personally I'm cool if someone wants to write the code but I don't want to write+maintain it myself, at least with the current level of documentation of ATProto and BlueSky not really being my kind of software.
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     🌈☔🌦️🍄🌱🍉 (wmd@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 21:20:13 JST 🌈☔🌦️🍄🌱🍉

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     @drewdevault there's two things that are of concern for me.. 1) as I understand its still a commercial? Model. This has inherent issues which makes me worried.
     2) too big to fail and flagship issues. To many people in one place, gives a lot if power to the platform owner and to little to the community.

     These are reasons why I'm not jumping in any wagons.

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