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   mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 01:16:27 JST mcc

   But if the rubber ducks can find the problems in the code by themselves then why do we need to pay the programmers

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     WildEnte (wildente@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 16:45:11 JST WildEnte

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     @mcc I'm disappointed by the clear underappreciation of rubber ducks throughout this thread.

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     Kristian Sivonen (ruojake@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 16:45:36 JST Kristian Sivonen

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     @mcc To manage the ducks. You need a programmer to come in, identify issues and think out loud every now and then to get the self-reinforcing feedquack loop going again for a few hours.

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     Mudd ~: :blinking_cursor: (muddobbers@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 16:45:42 JST Mudd ~: :blinking_cursor:

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     @mcc

     have you seen the hands of a rubber duck? They don't have any, they can't fix code; that's why you pay the programmers!

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     Andrew L (andrewl@mastodon.me.uk)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 16:45:59 JST Andrew L

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     @mcc I once worked at a place where we thought about buying an enormous rubber duck and placing it in the middle of the dev's room. We couldn't afford the huge bill though. 🦆

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     DJ🌞:donor: (infosecdj@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 16:46:09 JST DJ🌞:donor:

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     @mcc try not to pay to quickly find out why~~

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     Andreas K (yacc143@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 16:46:37 JST Andreas K

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     @mcc Sure.

     I lived like a small king for a decade, fixing under time pressure the worst f%ckups human developers at my customers have produced. Harsh is the existence of an IT consultant.

     Bring them on, the LLM AIs that have problems to count, I'm sure there will be absolutely no flood of subtle one-off bugs, in code that no one at the customer even understands because it was generated by a magic LLM.

     The number of experts won't raise, the size of code that stinks OTOH.

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     Andreas K (yacc143@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 16:46:45 JST Andreas K

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     @mcc And that's at the moment when a significant jurisdiction is introducing more or less unlimited liability for software bugs.

     Good idea to downgrade the code monkeys from badly trained humans to stochastic automatons.

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     urig✔️ (urig@mastodon.online)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 16:46:52 JST urig✔️

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     @mcc speaking for programmers, we can type 10 times faster!

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     Indiealexh (indiealexh@tny.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 16:47:05 JST Indiealexh

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     @mcc the ducks can't read and AI is unaware how to provide the contextually relevant info for the ducks.

     The ducks also don't have fingers and so can't type the solution, and again, AI is unaware of the context.

     We can have the team start of a duck to pc interface. It should only case $1.2T USD