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   The Animal and the Machine (taatm@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 09:45:53 JST The Animal and the Machine

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   Dictionary of Right Wing tactics continued:

   Shut Up, I’m talking.
   “Stay in your lane.”, “Stick to football.”.
   Some pathetic men (typically) would tell a singer to stick to singing as they don’t know politics. This normally follows a rebuke to a statement they made after talking about politics that they know nothing about.

   There are endless variants to “shut up” and once you translate that in your mind, you can’t unhear it.

   Correlation as Causation in Bait and Switch
   “Migrants want to live in white countries!” Not true. Economic migrants do want to live in richer countries. These may not be white but the richest ones are. With the truth being about wealth we can ask why these countries are more wealthy and recognise theft and empire. The correlation switch implies white supremacy and hides theft by whites. A double racist whammy.

   Forgotten Cost
   “Russia and Ukraine should agree a peace settlement”. Which is as acceptable as agreeing to letting a drug dealer keep the front room and contents as owner after they smashed their way in through the front door and took over the front room and kitchen.

   A Deranged Question
   “But what if Putin suddenly decided to nuke Kursk.”
   * Sounds reasonable on the face of it but isn’t .
   • Low probability and false equivalence with a normal probability question
   • Implies error of action directing to in action to preserve status quo
   • Wastes your resource of time answering
   Counter:
   Flip reverse it. “Why hasn’t he already?”
   Let them answer their own nonsense.

   Mislabelling:
   Using a word that sounds right but isn’t. Supports an agenda.

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     • Vlad Vexler

     @vladvexler
     Is there a dictionary of misinformation terms somewhere and if not can we make them? We need to name things so we can dismantle them. For example, Toxic masculinity, now named, is something identifiable.

     I’ve wanted to do this for a while. Things like:

     Exaggeration
     “Will destroy incentives…” when it will just slightly reduce them. (Elon Musk)

     Over-Blown
     “She’s a communist!” when she is just introducing social programs.

     Work Demanding
     “Climate crisis isn’t real. Prove to me it is”.

     False Civility (Demanding calm words after violent action).
     “If you want to debate this stop swearing and come with the facts.” after a car is driven into protesters or a house is demolished for a freeway.

     Bad Neutral (Ignores actions as they are incumbent)
     “If we can’t agree, we shouldn’t change anything.” As power stations still burn gas and oil.

     Null as Zero
     “There is zero evidence for this.” Covid testing was stopped.

     False equivalence.
     “On the left we have a 20 year PHD Professor on the subject and on the right is Beatle Juice who is being very loud and is popular as he’s racist.”

     Failed Moderation
     He had most of the argument because every time she spoke he talked over her and the host did nothing but suddenly wrap up at the end.

     These are the ones just from the top of my head. I need labels. I need a dictionary.

     Thanks

     #TAATM

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